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Old 08-23-2012, 01:58 PM   #31 (permalink)
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They should just make an MMA HOF. I don't really care about the UFC HOF, because any HOF that doesn't count fights in Pride or any other short-lived major org is useless.

Something like this (must be 30 to be eligible):

HW:
Fedor Emelianenko
Mirko Cro Cop
Minotauro Nogueira
Igor Vovchanchyn

LHW:
Chuck Liddell
Randy Couture
Tito Ortiz
Shogun Rua
Wanderlei Silva

MW:
Anderson Silva
Dan Henderson

WW:
Georges St. Pierre
Matt Hughes
Royce Gracie

LW:
BJ Penn
Takanori Gomi

Only the best and brightest get in. Bones, Aldo, and Cruz are on pace to qualify. Guys like Belfort, Franklin and Machida are fringe cases. Shamrock, Severn, Sakuraba and Coleman type guys are just kind of before MMA was MMA and didn't have the impact Gracie did.
I would say a sport that's been around for 20 years you can establish clear top tens in HW and LHW divisions, top 5's in MW, LW and likely a top ten at WW, but that's merely because that division has been a gem of the sport.

HW - Fedor, Nog, CC, Mir, Couture, Frye, Severn, Coleman
LHW - Chuck, Shogun, Bas, Frank, Quinton, Wandy, Tito, Forrest
MW - Rich, Anderson, Dan, Sakuraba, Royce
WW - GSP, Hughes, Miletich, Sakurai, Fitch, Misaki, Koscheck
LW - BJ, Gomi, Florian, Edgar, Sherk
FW - Faber, Torres, Aldo
BW - Cruz

That's an average of two inductees a year since MMA began. Covers Pride, Pancrease, UFC Tournament's, Grand Prix's, and championships both earned and won.

The fighters on the fringes who should be up for debate are these types of fighters...

Igor Vovchanchyn, Jeremy Horn, Lyoto Machida, Vitor Belfort, Brock Lesnar, Tim Slyvia, Josh Barnett, Ken Shamrock, Frank Trigg, Diego Sanchez, Jens Pulver, Guy Mezger, Evan Tanner and Kevin Randleman.

Some of you may feel that only champions that have decade long runs should be in the Hall. I don't agree with that, I think a Hall of Fame should be about exposing fans to the sport and different eras/weight classes/styles. I would suggest any person that wants to seriously put Hall of Fame entrants into perspective visit this site.

http://www.notinhalloffame.com/

In it you will see what sports do a good job with their Halls (NFL, NBA) and you will see what a huge joke the MLB Hall of Fame has become as most of the best and brightest of my lifetime have been kept out. You could make a Hall of Fame of guys not in the Hall of Fame thanks to the line of "only the best and brightest". Qouta's are the way to go
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Old 08-23-2012, 02:13 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Forrest in and Lyoto up for debate. Seems legit.
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Forrest in and Lyoto up for debate. Seems legit.
Yup, I'll bet you no fighter in the history of MMA has as many upsets as Griffin at the ME level. Also you can't write the history of the UFC or even MMA without bringing up Griffin/Bonnar.
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You mean his whopping 2 over bum knee Shogun and the robbery over Rampage?

Yeah, what a legend.
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At least he beat Rampage. But we can talk about the greatness of Machida when he the greatest fight in UFC history or he gets out of his sub .500 slump he's in.

(also he was the underdog against Tito and Franklin)
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I think that is too many guys John. Florian, Fitch, and Koscheck never even held UFC gold.
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I think that is too many guys John. Florian, Fitch, and Koscheck never even held UFC gold.
I think having a title should be less of a standard then being one of the 10 greatest in your weight class. If you just induct champions you lower your scope of the hall and you limit the discussion and you make the hall redundant.
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