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post #1 of 37 (permalink) Old 08-22-2012, 05:05 PM Thread Starter
 
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Dana: Hendo is a UFC Hall of Famer, win or lose

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We're not too far off from UFC 151, a show which sees 41-year old Dan Henderson attempt to defy the odds and take the UFC light heavyweight title from Jon Jones. Henderson is riding a four fight win streak and has a career dating back to 1997 with a career record of 29-8.

Yesterday, on the UFC 151 conference call, Dana White said that Henderson was a lock for the UFC Hall of Fame:

"I thought Couture was wrapping it up at 37. Dan Henderson is a three time world champion. He's a great wrestler, has knockout power in both hands and has fought everyone from 170 pounds all the way to heavyweight. He continues to impress no matter how old he gets. Jon Jones has been on a tear. If he wrecks Dan Henderson, that would be even more impressive. No one has ever knocked out Dan Henderson. He's got a rock solid, iron chin. If he did that it would be quite a feat. Whether Dan Henderson wins or loses, he's a UFC Hall of Famer."

Given that it's the "UFC Hall of Fame" and not the "MMA Hall of Fame" it would seem that this would need to be based only on UFC credentials (otherwise, where is Fedor?). So here's a quick rundown of Dan's UFC fights:
  • UFC 17 - Dan Henderson wins UFC middleweight tournament, defeating Allan Goes and Carlos Newton. It's worth noting that the win over Newton was generally considered a very bad decision.

  • UFC 75 - Henderson returns to the UFC as the PRIDE middleweight and welterweight champion and takes on Quinton Jackson in a unification bout. Henderson loses by unanimous decision.

  • UFC 82 - Henderson faces Anderson Silva in a PRIDE/UFC unification bout and loses by second round submission.

  • UFC 88 - Henderson wins over Rousimar Palhares by unanimous decision.

  • UFC 93 - Henderson beats Rich Franklin by split decision in a mildly controversial decision.

  • UFC 100 - Henderson wins via huge knockout over opposing Ultimate Fighter coach Michael Bisping.

  • UFC 139 - Henderson returns to the UFC after a stint in Strikeforce. He defeats Mauricio Rua by mildly controversial decision in one of the best fights the sport has ever seen. Many felt that were the last round scored 10-8 as Rua was dominant in the round, it would have resulted in a draw.

  • Dan Henderson's UFC record: 6-2

It's interesting that 3 of Henderson's 6 UFC wins had some measure of controversy. I have no real problem personally with Henderson's wins over Franklin or Rua.

If you take his PRIDE and Strikeforce stints into account, Henderson is an absolute "MMA Hall of Famer." But on UFC credentials only, his case is iffy.

A win over Jon Jones would absolutely change that though. But, I guess Dana already covered that it doesn't really matter.
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So - As much as I like Dan the fighter, I don't think his UFC credentials make him a worthy UFC HoF'er, he never even held af UFC championship... MMA HoF, he'd be the first man in...

So, does he deserve it?


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Yes, the man earned three title shots, defeated 6 different UFC champions from four different weight classes, is a top ten LHW and MW fighter and a main eventer. I know some people feel you need to hold a title to be in the Hall of Fame but for me that's beside the point. Dominant champions come along doesn't mean that #2 or #3 guys in the world are unworthy. Putting legends in the Hall of Fame does not tarnish the hall.
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Put him in, don't put him in, it doesn't matter. The "UFC HOF" is probably the weakest, most ridiculous HOF out there and shouldn't be taken seriously by anyone.

Who cares who is in the "UFC HOF", when they open a HOF that actually matters to the sport (as in, adding the legends of the SPORT, not one single organization run by a biased fool), then I'll show interest.
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Has never held a UFC belt so a "UFC HoF" induction doesn't seem justified just based on his UFC record. MMA HoF, yes, obviously. If the UFC HoF is just a proxy MMA HoF, then sure, put him in. If it is actually being based solely on UFC accomplishments then obviously he shouldn't be in.
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It should just be renamed the hall of champions since most people seem to think only title holders or former title holders should be inducted into it. I disagree with that mentality, but that's just my opinion.

There needs to be an MMA hall of fame.

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No IMO. Prob a minority opinion though.

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If he beats Jones, absolutely.

If he loses... and this comes from a huge Hendo fan, I would say no. He never won UFC gold and lost both unification fights. An argument could be made if he does lose, but gives Jones a test unlike anybody before him, like losing a SD for example.

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Yeah he should be a HOF. Since the UFCs is the only one around then lets throw him in there. The man has earned that much atleast. Us Fans should support it instead of being critical.

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I agree with Sideways.

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Yeah he should be a HOF. Since the UFCs is the only one around then lets throw him in there. The man has earned that much atleast. Us Fans should support it instead of being critical.
Support a HOF that doesn't actually include HOF material fighters just because they fought somewhere else, or because Dana doesn't like them? No thanks.

When they induct Sakuraba, Fedor, Cro-Cop, Gomi, Bas Rutten, Frank Shamrock, I'll be more than happy to support it.

If we are simply talking about "UFC" HOF (which we are, I realize), then Dan does not on any level deserve it, he had 2 title fights (he won the titles outside of the UFC, not in it), lost them both, got a few wins over Shogun and Franklin, and that's been it. Which makes the HOF even more ridiculous.
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