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Old 08-23-2012, 10:03 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Weidman hasn't even fought Leben, can you not read?

Anderson Silva is the same man who walked in off the street and a got a title shot for beating ONE MAN, that same man who lost to Mark Munoz who everyone just dismisses when it comes to Weidman.

How come Anderson can get a title shot for beating a guy who probably wasn't even ranked but Weidman goes undefeated, finishes everyone with a proper training camp and has two top ten, one top five win and he can't get a title shot?

If Anderson had a good reason to wait out, it'd make sense but what's he gonna do when they have to carry what's left of GSP out of the Octagon? Is he gonna pick a fight with Condit next?
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Old 08-23-2012, 10:07 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Who said he will be able to do that ?
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In my mind, that is what will happen and I cant imagine any other outcome after seeing the way Chael kept control of him on the ground and how easily he got the takedown. GSP wont get caught and most probably wont finish. I cant get excited about seeing that.
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Weidman hasn't even fought Leben, can you not read?

Anderson Silva is the same man who walked in off the street and a got a title shot for beating ONE MAN, that same man who lost to Mark Munoz who everyone just dismisses when it comes to Weidman.

How come Anderson can get a title shot for beating a guy who probably wasn't even ranked but Weidman goes undefeated, finishes everyone with a proper training camp and has two top ten, one top five win and he can't get a title shot?

If Anderson had a good reason to wait out, it'd make sense but what's he gonna do when they have to carry what's left of GSP out of the Octagon? Is he gonna pick a fight with Condit next?
Well it's been almost a 100 UFC PPV's since Silva fought Leben. Things are quite different these days... I'm not saying Weidman doesn't deserve a shot, I'm just saying I'd much rather see Silva fight GSP while Weidman proves himself in another fight... Would make the title-shot that much more deserved and interesting
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Old 08-23-2012, 10:45 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Well it's been almost a 100 UFC PPV's since Silva fought Leben. Things are quite different these days... I'm not saying Weidman doesn't deserve a shot, I'm just saying I'd much rather see Silva fight GSP while Weidman proves himself in another fight... Would make the title-shot that much more deserved and interesting
Well on the off chance that GSP does win, the fight won't happen until April/May/June.

So, why should the Middleweight division have to wait for over a year for the title to be defended? Anderson fought Chael in July, if this does happen by the time the belt gets defended again it'll be over a year. There's no reason for Anderson not to be defending the belt in December/January.

They should make an interim title fight between Weidman/Boestch or have Anderson forfeit the title and let Weidman and Boestch fight for it.
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I like the idea of Weidman vs. Boetcsh, it should be a #1 contender's match though.

Silva is not fighting again in 2012 anyways and an early(ish) 2013 fight with GSP (SuperBowl weekend?) would fit perfect.

Silva fought twice at LHW and didn't forfeit his title - why should he this time?
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Weidman hasn't even fought Leben, can you not read?

Anderson Silva is the same man who walked in off the street and a got a title shot for beating ONE MAN, that same man who lost to Mark Munoz who everyone just dismisses when it comes to Weidman.

How come Anderson can get a title shot for beating a guy who probably wasn't even ranked but Weidman goes undefeated, finishes everyone with a proper training camp and has two top ten, one top five win and he can't get a title shot?

If Anderson had a good reason to wait out, it'd make sense but what's he gonna do when they have to carry what's left of GSP out of the Octagon? Is he gonna pick a fight with Condit next?
I get it, you want Condit to win...

But just because that happened with Anderson, it should happen with everyone? Should I tell Dana to start drawing up Batista's contract now? Weidman hasn't shown that much imo and if he got a win over a real legit contender like Belfort/Belcher or Bisping/Stann then I think he should get a title shot, but Munoz is nothing.
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Old 08-23-2012, 11:00 AM   #27 (permalink)
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I like the idea of Weidman vs. Boetcsh, it should be a #1 contender's match though.

Silva is not fighting again in 2012 anyways and an early(ish) 2013 fight with GSP (SuperBowl weekend?) would fit perfect.

Silva fought twice at LHW and didn't forfeit his title - why should he this time?
If this happens, I doubt it happens in Vegas, it'll be at Cowboys Stadium since this is the only fight big enough to match Pacquaio's attendance numbers there, and they'd be fools not to do it there.

Silva also had his division cleaned out when he did it before, now? He doesn't.

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I get it, you want Condit to win...

But just because that happened with Anderson, it should happen with everyone? Should I tell Dana to start drawing up Batista's contract now? Weidman hasn't shown that much imo and if he got a win over a real legit contender like Belfort/Belcher or Bisping/Stann then I think he should get a title shot, but Munoz is nothing.
Obviously it doesn't happen to everyone, Weidman had to fight more than once, and Anderson still doesn't want any part of him.

Who is Batista?

And now, you're gonna tell me Bisping and Belcher, two guys with no top ten wins ever, are real contenders but Munoz isn't? Bisping is coming off a loss for crying out loud! I swear Anderson's fans are terrified of the thought of him fighting Weidman it seems, pulling every single trick out of the hat to discredit him. It's hilarious, the sooner Anderson gets the hell out of this sport the better. Hopefully his terrified legion of excuse makers will follow him out.
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If this happens, I doubt it happens in Vegas, it'll be at Cowboys Stadium since this is the only fight big enough to match Pacquaio's attendance numbers there, and they'd be fools not to do it there.

Silva also had his division cleaned out when he did it before, now? He doesn't.
It should happen in a big venue, that's for sure. While the division isn't totally cleared out at this time I'm sure that Zuffa doesn't want to make a MW title fight that Silva isn't interested in. Just look what happened at UFC 112.

And at the same time the fight Silva is interested in (GSP) is a huge fight that will probably do big numbers - The fact that GSP has expressed an interest is also a big plus.

I agree that Silva shouldn't be allowed to pick and chose who he fights, but he should be allowed to be part of the decision-making proces as it is in both his and Zuffa's interest that he fights big fights and fights he's interested in during this, late part of his career.
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Old 08-23-2012, 11:37 AM   #29 (permalink)
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I don't think Mayweather or Silva should be catching shit for moving down in weight. Floyd started his career fighting at much lower weight classes and Anderson has fought at lower weights as well. If your body will let you get that low, go ahead, reap the benefits or suffer the consequences based on how your body reacts.

The fact that this is catchweight is attractive to both fighters and the UFC but is not good for my boy Georges in my opinion. Anderson's body frame is much bigger, his striking is way better and his subs are as high level as they get. I'm a GSP nuthugger for sure but I think he should be thankful that Anderson chose MW so he could dominate the WW division, but that's another thread topic.
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Old 08-23-2012, 11:45 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Weidman is the probably the number one contender now, but I don't think it's like he has lit the world on fire or anything. The Munoz win is nice, but Munoz really isn't nearly as good as he gets credit for. Dude lost to Matt Hammill. I guess some people are more impressed by wins over Leben and Maia than I am, but I think there are close to 10 MW that would beat Leben and Maia easy.

Weidman and all of the Silva haters should stop whining. He has 9 wins and a tenth against a top contender like Belfort, Bisping, Okami, or Rashad dropping down will make his title hopes impossible to refuse.

If Silva wants to fight GSP (a fight that people were clamoring for a year ago, but now all the sudden he's scared of a guy with 9 fights) let him. Will people complain about GSP avoiding Kampmann/Hendricks winner to fight Anderson?
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