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Old 08-23-2012, 03:31 PM   #201 (permalink)
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Old 08-23-2012, 03:34 PM   #202 (permalink)
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I guess Jones the Mayweather of MMA now. Everybody hates him now.

But, I don't think Mayweather would pulled out this late near the card.
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The UFC is not entitled to anything by any means, but they tossed Jones a bone(lol) with Chael, and he sat there like he was too good for it. The guy is 25, has a deal with Nike, prolly some other badass sponsors, has been hyped to the max, has been given the limelight, and it's all thanks to the UFC. I'm not saying he owes anything to the UFC, but it was unreasonable for him not to fight Chael on short notice considering he had a full training camp, Chael's arguably less dangerous than Hendo but poses a similar challenge, and Chael would have had 8 days to prepare for the fight. There are three ways to formulate a decision, one is based on logic, the next is based on what the right thing to do would be(ethics), and the last is on the emotional impact it has on you personally as an individual. Jones chose the last one, and focused on himself only. If I lose the belt to Chael on 8 days notice it would be terrible for my career, Chael doesn't deserve to fight me, I don't really need the money from this event that bad. Whatever.
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This sucks.But its NOT surprise in MMA that fighters get injuried like this, why does UFC act like this is so much worse than other times?

oh yes he said no to Sonnen.So what? Im sure there would been other options out there IF they really wanted it to work.

Why shut down a whole card Dana? You talk about Greg Jackson and Jon Jones being that bad..but you guys where the ones that decided to cancel the entire card!

to blame all or most of this on Greg Jackson and Jon Jones...comeeee on Dana!
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I'm sure Dana was positive that Jones would have smashed Sonnen and still refused and that fueled his anger a lot more than it would have.
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This sucks.But its NOT surprise in MMA that fighters get injuried like this, why does UFC act like this is so much worse than other times?

oh yes he said no to Sonnen.So what? Im sure there would been other options out there IF they really wanted it to work.

Why shut down a whole card Dana? You talk about Greg Jackson and Jon Jones being that bad..but you guys where the ones that decided to cancel the entire card!

to blame all or most of this on Greg Jackson and Jon Jones...comeeee on Dana!
From a business aspect if you look at the total cost that went into UFC 151 then ruining the event, it would probably would have been a lost if they went through with it without the main event. My guess it was cheaper to cancel than go through with it.
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Greg Jackson has responded:

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/8/23...-mauro-ranallo

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Minutes after UFC president Dana White announced that UFC 151 was cancelled because Light Heavyweight Champion Jon Jones declined to fight potential Dan Henderson injury replacement Chael Sonnen, Mauro Ranallo talked to Jones' head trainer Greg Jackson about the fallout, specifically White's comments about Jackson being "an (expletive) sport killer".

Jackson pointed out that Jones didn't turn down the fight on eight days notice but that it's really three days due to fight week being full of weight cutting and media obligations.

"I was asked if it was smart to take a fight on three days notice and I don't think it's smart to do that," Jackson said on The MMA Show. "Three days to fight a guy that caliber is not a smart thing to do. I'm not trying to ruin the sport or cancel an event. I don't know about that stuff, but thought it wasn't a wise course of action."

Jackson said that to fight someone of Sonnen's caliber, you "need to have a full training camp. That would seem smart to me. Fighting on three days notice isn't taking (the sport) seriously to me." He added that the decision wasn't solely his, but that Jones' entire team met and discussed whether to take the Sonnen fight on short notice. He merely added his opinion.

At the time of the interview, Jackson said he hadn't talked to Jones yet. He was also surprised at the negative reaction from White. After the jump, get the details about what Jackson thinks about his relationship with White given Thursday's comments.

SBN coverage of UFC 151: Jones vs. Henderson



On his feelings toward White now, Jackson said that he wasn't mad but confused. "I really like Dana and respect him...there is no ill feelings. I'm more confused than anything else."
"It's a serious fight with serious ramifications. I don't think I need to reach out to Dana. I didn't mean to cancel an event and was asked to give an opinion and I gave it. We all got together and are on the same sheet of music. These guys are professional promoters and that's what they do," he continued.

"I didn't know they had it all riding on one fight. It's one of those things...as a trainer. I'll give you my opinion. I'm not a yes man...I do what's best for my guy. I'm surprised by the veracity of his response but that's my opinion."

Jackson also said that if Sonnen was presented as an opponent for Jones in late-September instead of Lyoto Machida, they would have taken the fight.

"In this case (of the short notice fight), it's a world title fight in the best sport in the world on three days notice. This isn't backyard brawling...it's a professional sport."

"I think Chael is brilliant. He circumvented an entire division...went right from Anderson (Silva) to Jon. It's brilliant...he's got nothing to lose and everything to gain. I'm always impressed by him," Jackson said.
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Machida was in the air and headed to Brazil apparently.

Chael was ready to go but Jon didn't accept and they can't make Jon fight, that left them with....Ellenberger/Hieron, and do you really think people are gonna go out of their way to see that?

Blame is 50/50 here, UFC should have put out a better product, even though they did have Koscheck/Ellenberger originally, and Jones for not fighting Sonnen.
The UFC and Dana should have worked harder and been more creative in finding a solution here, IMO.

JJ in his first HW contest, anyone? Saves the card; no title on the line...

Something...

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