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UFC 151 canceled, Jones-Machida 2 at UFC 152 in Toronto

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@benfowlkesMMA
And there's the email about a forthcoming announcement from Dana White regarding UFC 151. Shit just got real.

@bokamotoESPN
Dana White to make announcement on 151 today during media call at 2 ET.

@DamonMartin
Dana White to make special announcement about UFC 151 today at 2pm ET. Stay tuned folks! #UFC

@arielhelwani
UFC just announced that @danawhite will hold a conference call at 2 pm ET regarding the fate of UFC 151. Stay tuned.

@mattlindland
Guess who is replacement? RT @arielhelwani: UFC just announced that @danawhite will hold a conference call at 2 pm ET regarding fate UFC 151

Not sure what it could be, so I didn't put this in the Hendo thread.
 
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How many times are they going to have somebody get injured and f*ck everything up before they take some responsibility and change the way they book fights.

Headline fight you say? Book a alternate in advance and be done with canceled fights. Its something they could have easily done with this card.
 
#237 ·
Yeah because someone is going to dump thousands of dollars into a camp and travel and all the sort of the stuff that goes along with preparing for a fight just so they MIGHT get a fight and thus collect a paycheck.

Yes, that could EASILY be implemented. I mean, who wouldn't want to do that?
 
#227 ·
I went for a nap and woke up to this. I hate this.

Not entirely sure on all the details (going to go back and read through now) but the jist is Hendo out, Machida offered and declined. Sonnen offered and Jones declined because Jackson told him to. Dana goes Hulk mode (who blames him). Bout it?

The entire situation is absolutely bullshit. **** Hendo. **** Jackson. **** Bones.
 
#229 · (Edited)
I wish to see what Rashad has to say now. He always told us about this fake guy, and today? It's wide clear to us he is a fake, and pu*****y

Champions must fight For PRIDE, HONOR, RESPECT, then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then thenMONEY!
 
#236 ·
I wish to see what Rashad has to say now. He always told us about this fake guy, and today? It's wide clear to us he is a fake, and pu*****y
Oh I would love to hear from the guy who wouldn't fight Jon Jones on 4 months notice has to say about Jones not fighting Sonnen on 8 days notice.

But I forgot nobody has ever refused a UFC fight :sarcastic09:

Hey anyone remember when people were mad because Jon Jones wouldn't sign toy belts?

You guys didn't want to pay to watch him win (and beat your favorite fighters) now you get to pay in the hopes he'll lose.
 
#235 ·
Toronto booed the shit out of him the last time, lol they're gonna boo him even more now.
 
#242 ·
Depends on if Machida beats Jones.

If Lyoto knocks him out, it'd be like we've traveled back to 2009 and everyone and their family's a Machida fan.
 
#245 ·
From a strictly martial arts perspective this is pretty sad.

If you're only preparing by using strategy to beat your opponent by studying their tape and training only the parts of your game that you need to beat them, and you have to be trained mentally from just that one perspective of beating just one particular opponent on a certain day and you can't face anyone else, then I don't call that being a martial artist. That's someone scared to fight and scared to lose.

Besides, in what other sport does a competitor/champ turn down a replacement, especially versus someone/some team from a division below. That's like the USA Basketball dream team refusing to play Lithuania if Spain couldn't play.
 
#250 ·
From a strictly martial arts perspective this is pretty sad.

If you're only preparing by using strategy to beat your opponent by studying their tape and training only the parts of your game that you need to beat them, and you have to be trained mentally from just that one perspective of beating just one particular opponent on a certain day and you can't face anyone else, then I don't call that being a martial artist. That's someone scared to fight and scared to lose.


Besides, in what other sport does a competitor/champ turn down a replacement, especially versus someone/some team from a division below. That's like the USA Basketball dream team refusing to play Lithuania if Spain couldn't play.


IMO that's the total opposite of fighter IQ (which is something a lot of jackson fighters tend to lack).
 
#254 ·
My thought is this:

Was an option open to Jones not to fight for the title? Keep it a 5 round main event without the title on the line if he felt Chael doesn't deserve a title shot.

This way its a PPV fight (that people regardless of what they thought the outcome would have been, would have an opportunity to watch the fight) if Chael loses, he was coming up on short notice with no real time to prep, and if Jones lost, it sets up an epic rematch for the belt, with a huge PPV buy rate.

I wonder if this was even an option...
 
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This is what Hendo reacted to the case:

"Sadly and unfortunately, I partially tore a ligament in my knee in training. As a result I've had to make one of the toughest decisions that I have ever had to make...for the first time in my career I am forced to pull out of a fight, my fight with Jon Jones at UFC 151. Luckily, surgery is not needed at this time and I will be completely devoted to rehabing my knee as quickly as possible. I feel that I owe it to my fans and all the people supporting me to fight at my full potential in order to give myself a chance to win the UFC title. I appreciate the loyal support that I have felt from my fans. I want to thank all of my coaches and team of guys for the great support with my training camp. Most importantly, I appreciate their honesty when I needed them the most to make this very difficult decision. I also want to thank Dana and Lorenzo for being so understanding and supportive. I will continue to pursue the UFC belt with all of my heart!"

Please just check that line were he says "I also want to thank Dana and Lorenzo for being so understanding and supportive"

Why does he have to thank them for being SO UNDERSTANDING? Isn't it a knee injury? That forces him out, and that doesn't need from the other side UNDERSTANDING, its an INJURY!!!!


I think that HENDO knew he is going to waste his career and get TFKO 100% sure.
 
#261 ·
This is what Hendo reacted to the case:




Please just check that line were he says "I also want to thank Dana and Lorenzo for being so understanding and supportive"

Why does he have to thank them for being SO UNDERSTANDING? Isn't it a knee injury? That forces him out, and that doesn't need from the other side UNDERSTANDING, its an INJURY!!!!


I think that HENDO knew he is going to waste his career and get TFKO 100% sure.


Haha talk about out on a limb. I'm sure if you take into the account the context of injuries lately and the scale of the fight you can understand that he is most likely acknowledging that he understands the repercussions of his dropping out and the magnitude of it.
 
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