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Old 08-23-2012, 02:23 PM   #81 (permalink)
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I absolutely understand JBJ and Greg Jackson's decision, BUT considering the ramifications...they could have requested double pay + 10% ppv or something to take this fight...AT LEAST to save the card. That's being a company man.

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Old 08-23-2012, 02:23 PM   #82 (permalink)
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And he's still going to promote Jones/Machida over Benevidez/Johnson
It makes sense that he would though.


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And he's still going to promote Jones/Machida over Benevidez/Johnson
Did he say that? If so that's a joke, Machida-Bones is a pathetic fight to try and promote over Benevidez-Johnson.
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It takes no balls whatsoever for Chael to take the fight on short notice because he has nothing to lose. He is coming up a weight class (although he has fought there before) and off a loss. He has done nothing to earn a shot and if he loses it would be easily dismissed since it was short notice, coming up a weight class, etc..

Jones is the one who would have everything to lose and almost nothing to gain from the fight. Thank god he turned it down. Dana is such an utter asshole, trying to turn this sport into a clown show. Making utterly retarded, nonsensical fights and then trying to blame Jackson or Jones when they rightfully laugh in his face for such idiocy.
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I hope not otherwise everyone will try to say Dan's legacy is a joke because he ducked Jones.

Seriously though, Jones needs to step off his high horse. First he wouldn't fight Machida, because he wouldn't make money, now he has to fight Machida because he won't fight a middleweight. I know Sonnen doesn't deserve the shot, but if Jones was on this card it would have saved the card and all the fans in Vegas that Jones wanted to "bless" won't get to see him fight.
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Why do people keep saying this? Sonnen was offered a fight where he had literally nothing to lose and everything to gain. Best case scenario for him would be he beats Jones and becomes LHW champion, makes a shit ton of money, and has his popularity/legacy/standing in MMA absolutely skyrocket. Worst case scenario is he collects a quick and hefty paycheck and loses a fight that nobody expects him to win anyway that has no impact whatsoever on his standing or how people perceive him as a fighter.

No balls necessary, anybody with a brain would have done the same in Sonnen's position.
Yeah stepping in to a fight with Jon Jones on 8 days notice would take no guts. He's moving up a weight class on 8 days notice, and while he would have a chance to win a title he also has a great chance to take a monumental ass kicking. Give your head a shake.
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Did he say that? If so that's a joke, Machida-Bones is a pathetic fight to try and promote over Benevidez-Johnson.
It is the fact that people know Machida and Jones. If they hyped Benavidez/Johnson most people watching would be like wtf who are these guys and what title?


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I absolutely understand JBJ and Greg Jackson's decision, BUT considering the ramifications...they could have requested double pay + 10% ppv or something to take this fight...AT LEAST to save the card. That's being a company man.

Every patron who purchased a card, all fighters expecting to fight, sponsors, PPV, casino venue, loss of income by UFC, etc...etc. All because of one individual. Please refer back to the articles I posted. Any debates now.
Actually I can debate this. As mentioned on the phone call, in the past the UFC has promoted other fights on the card to main event status, they have literally created a fight where both guys agree to show up in a few days, they have even moved fights up cards to make events happen.

What this really shows is that DW STILL can't learn his lesson and make sure that a card doesn't depend on a single fight. You figure the failures of Elite XC and Affliction would have helped that learning curve out some.
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