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Old 08-23-2012, 05:11 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Heaven forbid we look at it positively. A company man, by no means a scrub, stepping up, and the champion demonstrating that he truly will take on all comers. True warrior spirit, everything the UFC claims to be about.

Yeah... heaven forbid the UFC be embarrassed by all that nonsense.
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Old 08-23-2012, 05:17 PM   #22 (permalink)
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damn I feel so bad for the fighters with families to feed and bills to pay, all because the "champ" decides he wants to call the shots on if a billion-dollar company stages it's PPV or not.
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Old 08-23-2012, 05:18 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Heaven forbid we look at it positively. A company man, by no means a scrub, stepping up, and the champion demonstrating that he truly will take on all comers. True warrior spirit, everything the UFC claims to be about.

Yeah... heaven forbid the UFC be embarrassed by all that nonsense.
Jon Jones has stated before Henderson even got injured that Sonnen doesn't deserve a shot, and he's right.

And are there no other 205ers willing to step up, really? I think the UFC is using Jones as a scapegoat here.
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Old 08-23-2012, 05:29 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Jon Jones has stated before Henderson even got injured that Sonnen doesn't deserve a shot, and he's right.

And are there no other 205ers willing to step up, really? I think the UFC is using Jones as a scapegoat here.
Exactly. They made a shitty card looking to cash in on their new superstar and the other guy got hurt. Then Machida and presumubly guys like Shogun and Gustafsson turned down a fight on a weeks notice.

The UFC, fans, and fighters got burned on this, but lets stop pretending like Jones is some kind of terrorist holding them all hostage. If he is so awful and nobody likes him, then cut him. Superstars get special treatment, because they've earned it. That's true in all fields, not just sports.
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Old 08-23-2012, 05:55 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I put all the blame on Dana White. This is the first time in UFC history that an event has been cancelled, and there is no reason for that. He should have left the event as is and promoted a different fight for the main event. If he has the audacity to sell the Wandy-Franklin garbage card as a PPV then he should have no problem doing the same with UFC 151 minus Bones-Henderson.
Dana White is making the UFC look like a freak show and a joke instead of a legitimate sport by even THINKING of offering Chael Sonnen a title shot. Yes, Chael Sonnen: the guy who is COMING OFF A LOSS, HAS NEVER FOUGHT AT LHW IN THE UFC, HAS NEVER BEEN A UFC CHAMPION, IS A CONVICTED CRIMINAL AND PED USER, and has done absolutely nothing to deserve a match with Jon Jones who is maybe the GOAT in MMA and huge for a LHW, let alone a MW.

This would be the equivalent of the Giants having to play the Patriots in the Super Bowl, the Patriots die in a plane crash, NFL Comissioner Roger Goodell offers the Giants to play the NCAA All-American team as a replacement, the Giants say "wtf? No..." and all the fans get mad at the GIANTS IN THIS SITUATION?!?!

Am I the only one seeing the lunacy of this?
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Old 08-23-2012, 05:56 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I'm quite disappointed by the news as is everyone else here, but can see it from both perspectives. Jones is a) trying to build a 'legacy' and enjoy all the windfall that a long winning streak would give him. He feels not being prepared to fight someone; regardless of how favored he would be is not the right thing for him to do professionally. Of course GJ had a big part of this decision or so it sounds. b) He's just come out of that car wreck relatively unscathed, but his reputation as a golden boy seriously put in jeopardy (this would never happen to me etc a week or 2 before the accident). He's still a poster boy for unique and undeniable talent and that potential can certainly be realized. As a champion he represents the UFC in many ways and his decisions have far reaching consequences. Taking the Sonnen fight would have done some good for his publicity even if it is a farce of a match-up from a Chael "earning" it perspective.

I don't really feel like Jones is responsible for all the other fighters on the card when his opponent is forced to pull out last minute...I'm just undecided about whether or not he should 'man up' and fight Sonnen (the fan in me screams yes) in order to appease his bosses/the public etc when it's maybe not the smartest move for him long-term should he end up losing. I think his ego is far too large to really think he'd lose, but Jackson has him taking the 'smart, conservative' approach.

Time will tell how this plays out. I'm just disappointed as a fan. No fill-in fighter will ever really be worthy of the shot given to them, just ask Brandon Vera (a lot more time to train granted), but does Machida really deserve his rematch after one win with Bones now fighting the guy he beat in his last outing? Well, Machida was given that reward and it's not his fault this PPV crumbled, so take that part out of the equation.

Sigh. Disappointed for sure.
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This would be the equivalent of the Giants having to play the Patriots in the Super Bowl, the Patriots die in a plane crash, NFL Comissioner Roger Goodell offers the Giants to play the NCAA All-American team as a replacement, the Giants say "wtf? No..." and all the fans get mad at the GIANTS IN THIS SITUATION?!?!

Am I the only one seeing the lunacy of this?
This is such a stupid false equivalency that I am not sure where to begin. Team sports =/= individualistic sports.

I put my blame @ 60/40% on Jones.
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Old 08-23-2012, 06:07 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Well Jones has just made himself public enemy number 1, there seems to be a team spirit and oneness of guya fighting in the UFC and Bones just shat all over it. So what if the fight wasn't perfect for him, he is a champ who pretends to be an ethical man and has just gone and ****ed over 20 fellow pros...
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It is Jones fault because he had all the advantages here Sonnen has not bulked up to 205 yet, he hasnt had a training camp. Its not about if he deserves it here, he was ready to save a card at a disadvantage. Jones was trained and ready to make a big pay check...its a crazy decision. Jackson clearly thinks that right now Sonnen give Jones trouble.

For the people saying Sonnen talked his way into a Silva fight...stfu and or think before you speak.
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Old 08-23-2012, 06:11 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Wow. I didn't know Jones himself canceled the whole entire event. I thought he just didn't take the fight, and the UFC canceled it.
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