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post #61 of 79 (permalink) Old 08-23-2012, 07:46 PM
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this sucks, i agree with ppl saying that this isnt just Jons fault, he had the right to turn down the fight but he could have been a hero, he could have been that nice guy and taken the risk for all the other fighters, lets not act like this would be the end of the world he would destroy sonnen and EVEN if by some miracle he lost he could have simply negotiated an immidiate rematch in case he loses, and he could have asked for more money to accecpt the fight anderson silva style

but no, he just refuses to fight and thats it? im not going to say its wrong but it is IMO a very selfish thing to do, i know i would´ve taken that fight and i know any other chmap would have also, sure they would also probably ask for more money or some other crap but the important thing is that the show would go on, this is BS, jon doesnt "deserve" the hate but i can understand it, he could´ve been a nice guy this just proves what kind of person he is

it almost seems like he fought so much before just so he could be a TOP dog and call shots and make loads of money, now hes cleaned out the division and can do his scheduale

think about JBJ before being champ and then trying to cement a legacy = 4 fights in 1 year

JBJ after being champ and cementing a place in LHW history = 2 fights in 2012....wth...
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post #63 of 79 (permalink) Old 08-23-2012, 08:37 PM
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God Im starting to dislike Michael Chiesa, who is he to talk about Jon Jones like that and after he talked so much junk about Anderson Silva. It must be mortifying watching two guys at the top of ladder while you are waddling at the bottom. I dont know why but Chiesa's tweets caught my eye, I dont even mind all the other tweets, maybe its cause he looks like a trash talking hobo too.

I understand both sides of the fence, some are blaming Jones and some are not, im personally not sure how I feel about the whole situation...
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post #64 of 79 (permalink) Old 08-23-2012, 09:05 PM
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Wow... so much stupidity in this thread. I feel bad for Jon Jones... people crap on him for everything.

So Henderson gets injured and people expect Jon Jones to fight any random person with just over 1 week's notice?

You people need to get some common sense.
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post #65 of 79 (permalink) Old 08-23-2012, 09:20 PM
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Wow... so much stupidity in this thread. I feel bad for Jon Jones... people crap on him for everything.

So Henderson gets injured and people expect Jon Jones to fight any random person with just over 1 week's notice?

You people need to get some common sense.
Yeah. It couldn't possibly be that you just don't see the bigger picture.

Jones won't fight Anderson. He doesn't want to fight Machida. He doesn't want to fight Sonnen. Get out of here with your BS. He made a selfish choice. Jon Jones is out for Jon Jones, and obviously doesn't care about the company that made him, or his fellow fighters. At the end of the day that is entirely his choice, but it doesn't mean we all have to respect it.

Get some perspective.
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post #66 of 79 (permalink) Old 08-23-2012, 09:30 PM
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the football comparison is so horrible, because if you asked any NFL team if they wanted to play in the superbowl, they would say yes before they heard who the other team was and wouldn't care who it turned out to be.

i feel like there isn't a need to put the blame on only one person. there is plenty to go around. many fighters take fights on short notice. many don't. Does this make me think a bit less of jones? probably, but i already dislike the brand. my biggest pet peeve in mma is when fighters worry endlessly about legacy.

the UFC is largely to blame for this. they made a crap card, and now they can't sell it. they should have to pay the fighters.
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post #67 of 79 (permalink) Old 08-23-2012, 09:32 PM
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It's a shared blame, obviously. Jones and the UFC deserve to be crapped on for this. You can't really defend either.
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post #68 of 79 (permalink) Old 08-23-2012, 09:47 PM
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This has nothing to do with Jon Jones.

As the Champ, you are expected to fight who they tell you to.
Only 8 days notice? same goes for the challenger.
And he still has the advantage of having been in camp for X weeks and his body peaking at the right time.
Not so much for the challenger.

JBJ isn't getting hate because people love to hate, he is getting slammed for making a choice that makes him look like a greedy narcissist.
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post #69 of 79 (permalink) Old 08-23-2012, 10:04 PM
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The only thing i really don't understand is canceling the entire event. We have had worse things happen, but you really a SCREWING ALOT OF PEOPLE OVER by canceling it. People would rather get something for their money rather than nothing at all.

If the UFC was smart they would start doing some damage control right now.

1. Pay EVERY OTHER fighter on that card. It doesnt matter if your going to lose money or not. It's what's fair and its how you build loyalty with your fighters.

2. Refund each attendants ticket. Make a public apology. Offer to pay for hotels/flights at a later date.

Overall, the UFC is going to lose money one way or the other. If they don't do those 2 things they will be losing more then that over time.

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post #70 of 79 (permalink) Old 08-23-2012, 10:37 PM
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The thing I find funny is that Jackson said Jon taking this fight would be the worst thing he's ever done for his career, when in fact it's probably the exact opposite. I've been a fan of Jones since his fight with Bonnar and have haid his name in my list of faves the entire time on this site. Not anymore.

I understand that the UFC should have made a better card but they shouldn't have to when the best fighter on the planet imo is headlining. You think Brock Lesnar couldn't sell 800,000 with Nick Ring and the other gay dude from TUF as the co main? Gtfo...

I honestly believe that Jon probably regretted telling the UFC he wouldn't fight Sonnen unless he feels obliged by some moral handicap involving his previous statements of not letting Chael talk his way into a fight. Who knows what his reasoning is but it backfired on him whatever it was.

Both Jon and Jacksons camp shit the bed on this one plain and simple. This decision will affect their camp and bottom line more than they know.

The people claiming no other 205 fighters would step up are ridiculous. Most of them are well above 205 and would be killing themselves to cut down in that amount of time. Chael was basically the perfect solution, talented fighter, selling ability, previous beef with Jones, no need to cut weight, etc...He was the perfect opponent and Greg and Jon were too stupid to realize it.

Fawk you Jones and Jackson
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