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Old 08-24-2012, 11:43 AM   #81 (permalink)
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The ammount of sh*t that comes out of Sonnen's mouth makes his ass jealous.

Don't be bitter. Your guy is trying.

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- Jon Jones speaking before he ever imagined he might have to face Chael
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:48 AM   #82 (permalink)
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- Jon Jones speaking before he ever imagined he might have to face Chael
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:43 PM   #84 (permalink)
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Don't be bitter. Your guy is trying.

- Jon Jones speaking before he ever imagined he might have to face Chael
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"He's a long way away. He's not coming off the (Anderson) Silva fight and just talking his way into a 205-pound world title shot. [Sonnen] is going to have to beat a couple of the best in the world. If he beats Forrest Griffin, we'll shoot him right into the top five and let him fight some of those guys there, and we'll see what happens."
This is Mr. White, 3 days ago.

White and the media are too subjective.

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Hypocrisy from my mouth?!

Why?!

Am i the one who declared the above phrases?! Am i the one who said some things and did the contrary?!

I think you...and many others on this place have me confused with Jon Jones, just because i am known to be one of his biggest fans on this place.
So....if Jones f*cks up something, my name pops up immediately in the conversation.
F*uck me if i understand why...

Do you want me to repeat what i said yesterday: i think Jones made a mistake by not taking on Sonnen and he will collect the rewards in the future.
But...he did say he won#t give him a shot without earning it. And he stood by his word.

No matter what Jones would have done it would have ended up badly for him.

The guy has so many haters, it's hard to notice where the bit*cjing is coming from.

I am not here to defend him. He's a big boy. He can do it himself.

But, just like yourself, i can express my opinion. And you can like it or not.

Blaming Jones for everything that went wrong with UFC 151 is really retarded.

Firstly: it was Henderson who f*cked up like an amateur, tearing his ACL 8 days before one of the biggest fights of his life. Who does that?
Who gets hurt one week before a title fight?!

Then, Jones passed, wich sucks.

But he is/was willing to fight Sonnen at 152. Why not make that fight?!
And anyway...an untrained-out of shape Sonnen would have had ZERO chances against Jones. AN early finish would have been more than likely. Do you think the fans - and i am talking about those who bought tickets to the event + the PPV buyers - would have been "satisfied customers", knowing the product they spent good money on, is just an improvisation, who didn't make no sense whatsoever?!
The only reason Sonnen's name came into this was because of the Twitter exchange he had with Jones.
Tell me that is not lame?!

Dana talks about GJ ruining the sport. But the way he acted in this case has nothing to do with sports. The moment he decided to give Sonnen a chance, he killed the sporting aspect. A fighter banned for steroids, with a 2-1 record (arguably 1-2) should not get 2 title shots one after another, the second coming after a loss in a title fight.
That is what kills THE SPORT! That is what dents the credibility of this sport and makes it look like f*cking WWE...because what happened last night is nothing sort of a WWE drama, with Dana being Vince Macmahan...(or whateva his name is).

That is what shows how much Dana WHite cares about the sport and how much he cares about MONEY (THE BUSINESS ASPECT OF THE UFC).
Throwing Sonnen in the mix like that had nothing to do with the sport.


They could have cancelled the whole thing off, without the drama and make it look a professional job: refunds + paying the fighters. It wouldn't have cost a lot of money. And let's be honest: these fighters make tons of money for the UFC every 2-3 weeks. The UFC could have done this in return, without making such a big drama.

I have seen sporting events bigger than the UFC, cancelled on the day of the event: football matches with fans 70.000 fans in the stands, Formula 1 events cancelled or rescheduled. And these are sports with much higher exposure than MMA/UFC. ANd life went on.
Instead Dana "Money" White cries like a f*cking b*tch, because one of his employees dared to defy him.
Dana is not used to being turned down.
It just shows his true nature.

I am glad this happened, because it just shows how vulnerable the UFC is.
They bet everything on Jones vs Henderson.

They had an interesting co-main event, but Kos pulled out so they booked Hieron. WTF?!

They didn't even bother with this event.

In the end, Jones is becoming a villain. I f*cking love that. It fits perfectly his alter ego...the person he becomes when he enters the cage. He is savage and violent. By definition he is not supposed to be a nice guy.

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PS: i'm still waiting for the day he will oficially switch to *the dark side*, by doing something really nasty...
Nike ruined that for me though...

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Old 08-24-2012, 01:48 PM   #85 (permalink)
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I called it hypocrisy because you just told us how shit comes from Sonnen's mouth.

Yet your favorite fighter has said things like "won't catch me drinking and driving" " I will never turn down an opponent". Both shit statements.

At least with Chael we know it is an act and 80% of it is him trying to get a laugh.

Chael may be full of WWE crap. But Jones is full of actual crap.

And I am no Sonnen fan at all.

PS: you have a weird obsession with Jones "transformation" when he enters the cage. You talk about it in every post. It is weird. Everyone has a switch when they go in the cage.

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Don't be bitter. Your guy is trying.

- Jon Jones speaking before he ever imagined he might have to face Chael
Haha +Rep you for this. (If i can)

It cracks me up that there is Jones fans that even when Jones the UFC Champion pulls one of the biggest bitch/*****/selfish acts in MMA history. They STILL try to turn things around and refuse to see the obvious.
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Haha +Rep you for this. (If i can)

It cracks me up that there is Jones fans that even when Jones the UFC Champion pulls one of the biggest bitch/*****/selfish acts in MMA history. They STILL try to turn things around and make point the finger everywhere except in the right direction.
He is obviously to blame but the UFC is MORE to blame and where the finger should be pointed. When Edgar/Maynard got cancelled about two weeks before the event, what happened? THE SHOW WENT ON! Why? Because the card didn't beyond suck otherwise. Why didn't the show go on here? Because the UFC was relying on one guy to carry an entire card.
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He is obviously to blame but the UFC is MORE to blame and where the finger should be pointed. When Edgar/Maynard got cancelled about two weeks before the event, what happened? THE SHOW WENT ON! Why? Because the card didn't beyond suck otherwise. Why didn't the show go on here? Because the UFC was relying on one guy to carry an entire card.
Dude we dont have enough stars in MMA to create cards that are amazing all throughout. There has NEVER been in history of fighting sports where every card has all amazing fights. Go back to the golden days in boxing and you will see even then that most cards only have a good main event. That is just the way it is when you have alot of fights and not many name value guys on the roster. Its the nature of the beast in this business. Boxing events get cancelled exactly for these types of reasons too. And its partially why boxing has become an embarrassment to itself. BUT the UFC could always find a new opponent to step up until this last event where the Champion pussed out after the UFC scavengered and Chael saved the day. This is the first time that has happened in MMA. Its unprecedented.

But as normally some of the best fights come from some of the most unexpected fights. And i personally like watching Jake,Siver,Hieron,Hallman,Tavares.

The UFC did create a great headliner because Jon Jones agreed to fight on September 1st. If Jon jones got injured and had to pull out then that sucks but it happens and no one could hold it against him. Dan Henderson by all accounts tried to make the fight but just was physically not able to. So the UFC figured out a way to still give the fans an interesting and exciting headliner in Chael vs Jones. Jon Jones just finished a 3 month training camp where he not only got in shape but worked on his boxing,kickboxing,Wrestling,JJ and anything else you can think off. He wasnt being asked to step up on "short notice" while he was on the couch drinking beer. He was asked to accept a change in opponents against a guy that is not in fighting shape and is 185 pounds. And Chael has as little finishing ability as anyone in the UFC and is in no shape to go 5 hard rounds. What the UFC asked and EXPECTED Jon Jones to do was easy/simple and BEYOND REASONABLE. Hell Jones could have asked for a bigger paycheck since that is what he has been crying about lately anyway.

Instead Jon Jones went with a decision that if you ask me should have stripped him on the belt on the spot.

I wonder if the UFC can change the contracts to have people sign to fight on a "certain date" instead of a "certain opponent". Aslong as the opponent makes weight ofcourse. So if a swap in opponent happens then he cant weasel himself out of the fight.
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There are enough stars. Why did there need to be two PPV's in September to begin with? That is over-saturation on the UFC's part and now it costed them millions. You ALWAYS have to prepare for the worst. What if someone got hurt the day of the event?

I totally agree, the UFC asking Jones to do it was beyond reasonable. I can see him not taking the fight because he wouldn't gain anything by winning, and he would lose a lot by losing. Do I support the decision? Absolutely not, but it happened. It shouldn't have stripped him of the belt because he was not obligated to fight Sonnen. If it was in the contract, that's another issue. Maybe that's something the UFC should address.

Both of these short paragraphs are why I blame the UFC the most, and Jones second. If it had a good co-main event, then it could have pulled a Franklin/Wandy and been a bad PPV but still gone on. If it was in the contract, then Bones would have been forced to fight Sonnen.
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Haha +Rep you for this. (If i can)

It cracks me up that there is Jones fans that even when Jones the UFC Champion pulls one of the biggest bitch/*****/selfish acts in MMA history. They STILL try to turn things around and refuse to see the obvious.
Sorry mate...the only thing I turned around......or...rolled around to be more precise, was a joint.

I am incapable of challenging your opinion right now...

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