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Old 08-26-2012, 11:02 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I figured there would be at least one, may two, definitely one, so I am prepared for this.

Please reread my comment. I never said "The fight 9 Days out" had no chance of happening. I very specifically, and extremely obviously referred to the statement Chael made when he said he would fly to Vegas "Right now, that night" and fight Jones. And Dana and other people have been blowing smoke up his ass for making that statement.

My point was, there was no chance in hell, in heaven, in space, in crypton, in narnia or in Mordor that Chael and Jones would fight right then or the next day. That's a completely hollow statement because it could never happen. So for anyone to praise him for saying it, is completely lame.

Again, it's like me saying I would fight Anderson Silva right now. So what? it obviously won't happen so who cares if I say I would do it?

I made no mention of the actual fight not happening 8 days later. Although, I do believe Chael knew Jones would never agree to it, and in all honesty. Chael probably took a deep sign of relief when Jones said no. As soon as Jones said no, he won't fight him, Chael was like, perfect, that's what I was hoping you would say and now my promotional WWE style plan is ready to go. In his mind, Chael is really saying, Thank God that Jones said no, because that dude would wreck me.
did jones happen to squeeze you too tightly the last time you were swinging from his ballsack? LMAO.

I expected someone to catch you with your comment too.

But lets take it a little further, what it looks like you're saying is that we as UFC FIGHT FANS shouldn't hold a fighter in high regard or praise him for showing a willingness to fight.

And at the same time we should also not belittle a UFC Champion who turns down a short notice fight with a smaller fighter. Win or Lose, this was a payday, and a way for Jon Jones to be a team player. Jon Jones wouldn't even have the UFC championship belt if he didn't accept a similar offer in his career, now the shoe is on the other foot and Jon Jones can't catch the bill for the table.

but lets be honest, what you really said in your last paragraph was "I'm a delusional UFC fight fan who likes Jon Jones and know the outcome of fights before they even happen so why do I watch, and why should you consider my opinion anything other than invalid"
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Old 08-26-2012, 11:23 AM   #32 (permalink)
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What is so damn admirable about that? Who of us wouldn't agree to do the same thing, right now, for the same payday, win or lose?
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Old 08-26-2012, 11:07 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Old 08-27-2012, 02:59 AM   #34 (permalink)
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LOL Why would Greg and Bones Duck Sonnen? Whats really going on here?

Greg Jackson told Bones it would be the biggest mistake of his career to take on Sonnen.

BUT WHY?

Hendo is a well prepared wrestler on TRT with dynamite in his hands uber strength and a stone head.

Sonnen is an average chinned, wrestler with average to weak power in his hands thats under prepared and underweight.

Yet he would rematch Machida and not Sonnen?

WHAT THE HELL IS REALLY GOING ON?

Also Vitor dosnt stand much of a chance against Bones?

Also Anderson silva offered to fight Bones but it was too late is that just a ploy?
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Old 08-27-2012, 03:02 AM   #35 (permalink)
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This really could have been placed in any of the other Bones & Chael threads.

Anderson offered to fight another LHW. I.e not Bones. You really think if Bones is turning down Chael he's gonna take a fight with Anderson? Not likely.
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It seems pretty obvious that Uncle Greg and Uncle Dana are vying for control of the heart and mind of Jon Jones. Greg won this round. JJ is an extra-ordinary talent, but he doesn't have the political shrewdness or detached, calculated insight of stablemate GSP.

Right now, it's unclear to me what JJ's thought process is; I'm forced to guess that he's simply a young kid who didn't think through either the decision or it's potential consequences very clearly. It doesn't make him a bad person, it just makes him a bad politician.


Ultimately, one thing is clear: MMA has maxed out both it's talent pool and it's fan base. Dana is simply putting on too many weak cards with too few star fighters, and aggregate buy rates are quite low as the market is over-saturated with PPV events.


Given the risk/reward ratio, a very small percentage of elite athletes will enter the MMA talent pool in the future. Boxing shares the same problem.

On top of that, MMA is not going to increase it's mainstream fan base to any significant degree in the years to come, either. The sport is simply perceived as being too violent, despite it's relative safety compared to other combat sports.

Add to that Dana's penchant for childish rants, and it's quite clear that Zuffa and it's followers should be prepared for a long plateau as a viable, but niche pro sport.

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