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Old 08-24-2012, 09:45 AM   #91 (permalink)
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I would like to mention that I am about 99% sure that if the UFC had phoned BJ Penn despite being a LW and arguably a FW the guy would have accepted either fight and instantly begun jamming cheeseburgers down his throat to make weight.
You are 100% right. It is funny, this whole situation is making me rethink several people. I think we are now starting to see the clear lines of who is a Fighter and who is a Warrior. A Fighter fights for a living and makes very calculated moves on who, when, how. A Warrior just needs a time and a place.

There seem to be quite a few fighters at the top of 205, and not many warriors apparently. BJ Penn is always a warrior.
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Old 08-24-2012, 09:56 AM   #92 (permalink)
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After all of this shit, atleast 151 will end up being an awesome card.

The cherry on top of the cake if the Phenom can clean Jonny's clock.

Stann V Bisping will be fireworks and anybody that isn't interested in Benavidez V Mighty Mouse should be ashamed to call themselves a "hardcore" fan. It has FOTY written all over it.
I agree on pretty much everything but Vitor/Jones

Vitor's always struggled with wrestlers and I'm still yet to be sold on the fact he's an elite Middleweight. I think Jones will tear him apart, especially with Jackson in his corner. Only a moron thinks Bones will stand with Vitor for any longer than he has to.
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Only a moron thinks Bones will stand with Vitor for any longer than he has to.
The same could have been said before he fought Shogun for the title. Possibly even Lyoto before they fought. It's no secret that Bones likes to test his standup against everyone and Vitor is the kinda guy that can make you pay big in a short amount of time.

I'm not saying it's going to happen, odds are it won't (I just really want it to), but there's no doubting that if Bones and Vitor were both 6'1 with 74inches of reach that Vitor would straight murder Jones.
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Clearly people are forgetting that Vitor just switched to a gym not known for coming through when given big chances.
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Pretty funny that they worked fast enough to get this poster made - and then have to start all over again! :P

This says a lot about the UFC and how it's being run like a circus. Why announce an event that hasn't even been confirmed.
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Machida and Shogun are right to decline, they are fresh off fights and Shogun in particular is already preparing for his next bout, still under suspension.

Why should they bail Jones out? Jones had an opponent ready to go in Sonnen, he pussied out. No matter who he fought, he was going to be way more prepared.

Gustaf should have been first stop IMO, young gun on a streak, just like Jones was when he got his shot. Gustaf hasn't been mentioned at all though, looks like they did not ask him.

Don't diss other fighters for declining though, everything Jones does is disrespect. 'It's risky to fight Sonnen on 8 days notice, but I might consider fighting you or you.'

Get out you prick.
I would think VISA's would have been a nightmare for him and his team on such short notice, the whole logistics would probably have been to much..
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Lyoto obviously wants a full training camp this time since he fought Jones on short notice the last time, it all makes sense.

Also, Vitor is going to get slaughtered, if Anderson can do what he did to him, imagine what Jones is gonna do to him?
Hold on, are you implying that Jones' stand up is on, or near Anderson Silva's level?

Mimicking the MW champs stand up techniques doesn't make you as good as the MW champ.

From a technical stand point, Jon Jones' stand up isn't any where near close to Anderson Silva's. Like, seriously not even close. Anderson possesses god like timing, his footwork is leagues ahead, he's MUCH faster and he can work angles like no other.

You think that because Anderson Silva front kick KO'd Vitor, that Jones will be able to copy him and do the same?

ha ha, no chance.

If Anderson Silva retired tommorow, I'd bet the lot on Vitor Belfort becoming the new MW champ and ruling it for some time.

The Phenom is a beast. He's destroyed Rich Franklin, Akiyama (granite chin) and Rumble (A god damn HW). Anderson Silva is simply on another level though and there is no shame in losing to him or getting KO'd.

I'm really shocked at how many folk are underestimating Vitor. He presents very real and very dangerous threats to the champion.

I currently have the bout in 60/40 favour of Jones.
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Hold on, are you implying that Jones' stand up is on, or near Anderson Silva's level?

Mimicking the MW champs stand up techniques doesn't make you as good as the MW champ.

From a technical stand point, Jon Jones' stand up isn't any where near close to Anderson Silva's. Like, seriously not even close. Anderson possesses god like timing, his footwork is leagues ahead, he's MUCH faster and he can work angles like no other.

You think that because Anderson Silva front kick KO'd Vitor, that Jones will be able to copy him and do the same?

ha ha, no chance.

If Anderson Silva retired tommorow, I'd bet the lot on Vitor Belfort becoming the new MW champ and ruling it for some time.

The Phenom is a beast. He's destroyed Rich Franklin, Akiyama (granite chin) and Rumble (A god damn HW). Anderson Silva is simply on another level though and there is no shame in losing to him or getting KO'd.

I'm really shocked at how many folk are underestimating Vitor. He presents very real and very dangerous threats to the champion.

I currently have the bout in 60/40 favour of Jones.
I'm not implying anything about his stand up.

I'm SAYING his entire MMA game is better than Anderson's, and if he fought Anderson, he'd man handle him to the ground, then he'd cave his face in before he choked him out, much like he's going to do to Vitor.
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This says a lot about the UFC and how it's being run like a circus. Why announce an event that hasn't even been confirmed.

No dude. Them creating a poster so quickly is total professionalism. They want to ready to publicise the second a fight is signed. I've seen many things from the UFC that I have been critical of... this isn't one of them.
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