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Old 08-26-2012, 07:05 AM   #111 (permalink)
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wow just wow

you keep trying to argue this point for what reason i don't know. totally separate form my main argument but you seem hung up on chael so let me make it simple.



and im not sure what your arguing with vitor? hes a mw. how many wins or what streak hes on means nothing in the lhw div. especially for the title. im still shocked that no lhw stepped up at all.

chael should never have been offered and the fight should have been postponed, thats what professional orgs do. they move the fight and bump up the card, and if they have to they eat the loss. they dont cancel the card and blame the champ for pulling out instead of giving the other guys on the card a chance to get paid and put on a show.

dana is an idiot and ruined his own card, i dont like jones pulling out but i dislike hiding injuries even more. especially when it leads to the cluster**** that is 151 which will remain numbered and a cancelled card.

for all the talk nobody signed to fight on the 22 except for vitor. thats all that it comes down to. its fine if you think fighters who fight for a living are cowards. especially if its the champ who has already beat some of the best. but jones need not apologize to anyone.
(You can just skip all this and read the article on the bottom to realize your imaginary lies are just that. If you want to quickly find out you are wrong that is)

Ok lets take the confusion out of it.

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nobody realizes that chael was the only guy willing to step up on the first, but just like the rest of lhw was unwilling to fight him with just 20+ days prep time.
Are you still trying to make that claim???

If so with what "EVIDENCE"

If its your "Fertita told Vitor nobody wanted to fight him" argument then try again. That in no way means that they offered the fight to Chael and he declined it. That in no way means Chael called Dana or Fertita and told him he does not want to fight Chael.

What that does mean is that the people they offered the fight TO all declined the fight. And here let me see if Fertita mentions that Chael declined the fight.

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After Lyoto Machida, who was the official number one contender to take on the winner of Jones vs. Henderson, turned down his title shot, which would have been on 31 days notice, Mauricio Rua was the next guy offered the fight. According to UFC CEO, Lorenzo Fertitta, "Shogun" declined the fight, as well.

OR

"Yes, Machida and 'Shogun' passed," Fertitta said. "Thank God for old-school real fighters."
Okay so where does Fertita mention that Chael declined or was "unwilling" to fight Jones on the 22nd??? Yup no where.

So unless you have Dana Whites phone tapped or Chael Sonnens phone tapped and you have been listening in and heard Chael Sonnen say he does not want to fight Jones on the 22nd, you have absolutely not evidence to support your claim.


And thats the point i quoted you on since the first time i quoted you and that is the point i am discussing with you.


So now either show me where it says Chael turned down the fight with Jones or is unwilling to fight Jones, quit going around making rumors up based on your fantasies.

(And i hope you can finally realize how stupid it is to make false claims about a guy not wanting to fight someone that he already accepted to fight. The only person "unwilling" to fight was Jon Jones.)


And also here is an article you should read.

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When Dan Henderson's hurt, Chael Sonnen doesn't make sense and both Lyoto Machida and Mauricio Rua turn you down, who you gonna call?

Vitor Belfort.

That's what the powers that be at the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) did when they couldn't find an opponent to challenge Light Heavyweight Champion Jon Jones in the main event of UFC 152 on Sat., Sept. 22, 2012, in Toronto, Ontario, Canada.

And "The Phenom," coming hard from the old school, didn't hesitate to accept.

Belfort, who is coming off two straight first round knockout wins over Yoshihiro Akiyama (at 185-pounds) and Anthony Johnson (at 197-pounds), took to Twitter to talk about how thankful he is for the opportunity while sneaking in a shot at other fighters acting like divas.



I just finish the call with my boss @lorenzofertitta and @danawhite I want to thank booth for put me in where a lot of guys are acting like divas I think this is a big challenge for any fighter that is alive on the game I thank God to provide me with this Blessing 2 fight the youngest champion we will face each other I have all the respect for jones thats why u can`t miss this competition a vintage and hy-tech fight Glory to Jesus also happy for all the fans I will not let no one down I come from the times of #carlsongracie He live inside of me I learn so much thing with him and #alstankie ... I will fight jones I want to thank he`s camping and him to accept this big challenge for me I am so happy to deliver a big show for the whole world. Are guys happy give me a RT

Belfort was originally scheduled to take on Alan Belcher at UFC 153 on Oct. 13 in Brazil, a bout that may or may not have helped earn him another crack at the middleweight crown.

Bigger is better.

This all came to fruition thanks to both Machida and "Shogun" inexplicably turning down a rematch against Jones. "The Dragon" will reportedly explain his reasoning later today.

The UFC also didn't want to put together the Sonnen fight because it was always simply meant as a last minute emergency and the company wants to stick to its guns that "The American Gangster" needs to pick up a few wins in his new division to earn that title shot.

That left few options and Belfort was apparently the best one left.

"God" is good, huh?


Now never bother me with your stupid lies again.
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:09 PM   #112 (permalink)
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(You can just skip all this and read the article on the bottom to realize your imaginary lies are just that. If you want to quickly find out you are wrong that is)

Ok lets take the confusion out of it.

Your quote -

Are you still trying to make that claim???

If so with what "EVIDENCE"

If its your "Fertita told Vitor nobody wanted to fight him" argument then try again. That in no way means that they offered the fight to Chael and he declined it. That in no way means Chael called Dana or Fertita and told him he does not want to fight Chael.

What that does mean is that the people they offered the fight TO all declined the fight. And here let me see if Fertita mentions that Chael declined the fight.



Okay so where does Fertita mention that Chael declined or was "unwilling" to fight Jones on the 22nd??? Yup no where.

So unless you have Dana Whites phone tapped or Chael Sonnens phone tapped and you have been listening in and heard Chael Sonnen say he does not want to fight Jones on the 22nd, you have absolutely not evidence to support your claim.


And thats the point i quoted you on since the first time i quoted you and that is the point i am discussing with you.


So now either show me where it says Chael turned down the fight with Jones or is unwilling to fight Jones, quit going around making rumors up based on your fantasies.

(And i hope you can finally realize how stupid it is to make false claims about a guy not wanting to fight someone that he already accepted to fight. The only person "unwilling" to fight was Jon Jones.)


And also here is an article you should read.




Now never bother me with your stupid lies again.
wow just wow

you are clearly missing the point badly. i already explained my reasoning as simple as possible, if you wish to continue this over pm, by all means.

the only stupid lie here is your lie that jon jones is a coward.

this nonsense claim makes you look like a troll and an idiot.

get off of chaels nuts for a second and you'll see that my main argument is jones didn't ruin the card to have to apologize.

holy shit its like your blind to my main point and desperately want evidence that chael did not want to fight on the 22.

the ufc can't find anybody and nobody is publicly asking to fight jones for the title on the 22. That tells me all i need to know. see it different if you wish, but stop being retarded.

you've gone full derper here and im sure you still want to argue chael. By all means go ahead, ill respond to the best of my ability since it is clear you only have a problem with that speculation on my part. (why you scream for evidence to speculation is beyond me)

and rumors based on fantasies would be something to call your claims not mine.
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:29 PM   #113 (permalink)
 
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As suggested - carry on in PM if you must... Please keep the bickering off the board guys, you know this.

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