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Old 08-24-2012, 09:53 AM   #41 (permalink)
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I agree with the crap card seems to be a lot of that these days. And maybe if DW really really wanted to he could have done something to save the event. But maybe he is making a statement here also, of not to f*** with the UFC on things like this. Kind of a powerplay for the organisations future.
Overall he has brought so much hate upon himself not taking this fight, whether it has a major or minor effect on the finances of his peers its still gona piss them off big time and we can see that from the lauzon statement and other tweets.
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But it isn.t really is it if you think about it?

Yeah Jones is getting called all the names under the sun for this but come next PPV you can stonewall guarantee that the PPV buys will be massive and it'll be because all the new haters will be tuning in to hopefully see bones get his ass kicked. Thus, making him and the UFC more money.
I don't know if thats the case, In reality there are not many guys out there who have much of a shot at kicking his ass, the bigger down side I see is that he is on Dana's shit list. Dana controls the purse strings and Im pretty sure this is going to be more bad than good for JJ, I don't know all the details of how contracts are worked out, sponsorship money and other things but if dana decides to only let him fight once a year, put him against shit fighters that nobody wants to see, be a hard ass on all future negotiations. If he ever loses the belt you know dana will make him wait years for another shot. I guess time will tell. If Jon finds a way to put big money in dana's pocket he will be back in good graces quick enough, just like Tito. IMO.
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:06 AM   #43 (permalink)
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I agree with the crap card seems to be a lot of that these days. And maybe if DW really really wanted to he could have done something to save the event. But maybe he is making a statement here also, of not to f*** with the UFC on things like this. Kind of a powerplay for the organisations future.
Overall he has brought so much hate upon himself not taking this fight, whether it has a major or minor effect on the finances of his peers its still gona piss them off big time and we can see that from the lauzon statement and other tweets.
I think you hit the nail on the head with that one.

Yeah a big part of this is a UFC powerplay i.e. how dare a star go his own way.

And yes, major or minor financial issues, the fighters and fans are going to hate Bones and make him the scapegoat here because of the great blame job by Dana.
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:07 AM   #44 (permalink)
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If Jon finds a way to put big money in dana's pocket he will be back in good graces quick enough, just like Tito. IMO.
This is possible, but he would need to have a very good PR company behind him to come up with something genius to get him back in the good graces. That or he is involved in a hendo/shogun type war where he comes back from adversity or shows he is at least a tough warrior when he is in the cage.
Tito had his issues, but he was always a good PR man PRE fights, and although a lot of people hate him for talking about his injuries, he had some serious health issues going into most of his last half dozen fights at least - I'd say that is one of the reasons Dana let him back in and probably has a grudging respect for the guy. He never let him down on a card

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Old 08-24-2012, 10:24 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Dana will always hold a grudge, but he knows he has no leverage or reason to be out to get Jones. He is one of their biggest draws and will be for some time. Considering PPV buys are down from a few years ago and it will continue (with all the free cards and more streaming). All will be fine for Jones.
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Dana will always hold a grudge, but he knows he has no leverage or reason to be out to get Jones. He is one of their biggest draws and will be for some time. Considering PPV buys are down from a few years ago and it will continue (with all the free cards and more streaming). All will be fine for Jones.
Agreed, Dana tried to hold a grudge against Anderson for his Leites and Maia fights, but two KOs and some major $$ cards, he's back to calling him the best fighter in the world.

At the end of the day, money heals all Dana wounds. He'll hold the grudge passively but he's marketed Bones too much to turn this into a profitless war.
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Bones was in fight shape, Sonnen is not, Jones should have taken the easy payday and smashed Sonnen's face into the mat, especially with all the shit talking they are doing with each other on twitter. But Bones is so scared to lose.. Stop being a princess Bones. Man up and take the fight because well, you are a fighter.
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I wonder if he was wearing a "Bones Knows" shirt when asking Greg Jackson what to do.


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I'm a bones fan who is disappointed, he really messed up on this. my number one fighter is anderson, so it goes without sayign I have a dislike for sonnen. I put all that out to say sonnen is right on this. bones is acting bitch-made about it. and he has lost a lot of my admiration, maybe even lost me as a fan all together
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