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Old 08-24-2012, 07:36 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Their rankings take into account a whole bunch of factors and I believe they are set up using mathematics, not just some fat guy deciding who is the best on the planet.

If you don't fight for 6 months i'm fairly sure they take you off the rankings. Fairies Nuts IMO (fair enough).

and yeah, Kampmann is the man! He could very easily be on a 7 fight win streak right now if the judges had been a little kinder to him. Erick Silva will jump so high up after he dominates Fitch.
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Old 08-25-2012, 01:27 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 08-25-2012, 01:48 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Maybe do the ranking by top money earner. Just a suggestion as money is all these fighters motivates.

And its all about the money than the stats nowadays.
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Old 08-25-2012, 06:40 AM   #14 (permalink)
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That said here's some things I'd like to see:


3. Contender gets his ranking point adjusted to #1 contender if he somehow wins the match vs the champ on short notice. (this way people get the auto re-match to see if it was a fluke, a belt should be earned not won on a gimmick).
Dont agree with this one, jon jones accepted shogun on a short notice and absolutly dominated him, people arent interested in a remath between the 2 of them a year after.... imagine theyd be forced to do a rematch right after their first fight
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Dont agree with this one, jon jones accepted shogun on a short notice and absolutly dominated him, people arent interested in a remath between the 2 of them a year after.... imagine theyd be forced to do a rematch right after their first fight
The main incentive behind that is because this way no champ would be ducking challenges. Having your opponent you've trained for be replaced by a random fighter in the last 10 days is a valid concern for any champion. Plus, whoever steps in really didn't "deserve" the shot to begin with, they just happen to be available and willing to fight. So with that in mind, the champ will accept anyone since he knows he'll still keep the belt. The contender can boost himself to #1 contender from middle of the pack by beating the champ while making title fight money (which would be a big jump for a lot of them).

More important than money though, a lot of fighters would love to have a best out of 3 or in this case a min of 2 fights guaranteed IF the short notice fighter wins vs the champ. The MMA game has evolved to the point now that the more they study each other, the more they can make adjustments. This is why I feel having 2 fighters fight at least twice will give a better judgement for the winner. Instead of a random flash KO win etc.. I still stand by the fact that the short notice replacement really has no business getting a title shot, if they did they'd be the #1 contender fighting legitimately. Just because they're stepping in as a favour shouldn't seal the belt for them. Being paid title money and then get boosted up towards #1 contender should be more than enough (especially if they're stuck in the middle of the pack purgatory).

Lastly, the champ has a gross advantage over the short term reps. Even if they didn't prepare vs random fighter X, their body is ready to go for fight night. Most of these random replacement fighters are out of shape and certainly didn't have any training camp to prep vs the champ. So odds are the champ will usually if not always win so the rematch worry is almost non existent while fixing the whole ducking issue.
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Well a Champion that had a 90 day training camp should certainly not be allowed to pull out of the fight due to his opponent getting injured. The opponent stepping up is the one who is "Actually" stepping up on short notice. That should have been a rule since day 1. I hope they make headliners sign contracts from now on that state you are "agreeing to fight on this date" instead of "you are agreeing to fight this opponent".

An injury or something else horrible should be the only reason a champion is allowed to pull out.

Wanting 3 more weeks to prepare after having 90 days... is not a good reason.
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styles can make fights. i honestly think that it is better to have matchmakers trying to find who can cause trouble for the champion rather than quantifying win streaks.

Reward win streaks frequently, but fast track people who have the right skill sets (in theory).
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styles can make fights. i honestly think that it is better to have matchmakers trying to find who can cause trouble for the champion rather than quantifying win streaks.

Reward win streaks frequently, but fast track people who have the right skill sets (in theory).
Yeah i support this too. There are some fighters that might never win enough fights in a row to get a title shot BUT have the skillset that would give problems for the champion. Alot of time its those "interesting" fights that i want and not some guy that is on a role but we know has no chance to win the belt.
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