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post #21 of 32 (permalink) Old 08-28-2012, 11:49 PM
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The only fighter I think can clearly beat him standing up is Anderson Silva.

For every other fighter, it would probably be better to pull guard and try for an armbar or triangle. I think someone with Vinny Magalhães/Rousimar Palhares ground game could submit Jones.
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Thing with Jones, people think its all to do with his reach and height...but its not, people can get inside on him but what are they greeted with? Some horrible elbows and some of the best trip takedowns in the sport....Being amazing on the inside allows Jones to fight on the outside.
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Thing with Jones, people think its all to do with his reach and height...but its not, people can get inside on him but what are they greeted with? Some horrible elbows and some of the best trip takedowns in the sport....Being amazing on the inside allows Jones to fight on the outside.
Another reason he's real dangerous on the inside are his knees. Without his height and length advantages he wouldn't be as dangerous as he is inside.

For example that guillotine choke he got on Machida, his long arms allow him to really get some torque.

Its skill no doubt but his size and reach are attributes that he uses in fights not passive stats.

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Another reason he's real dangerous on the inside are his knees, both weapons are aided by his comfortable size and reach advantage.
Sure but there still short range weapons compared to the other fighters punches and kicks. What i was getting at is even when you negate that reach he will still destroy you on the inside - I really dont know what you would have to do to beat Jones, he is a puzzle. Im not the guy to work him it though, not knowledgeable enough.

I do want to see someone plant him on his back though, expected Evans to have a good go at it. Sonnen to small....Cormier is the only person i would be really hyped to see in there with Jones right now. The Henderson fight was interesting due to Hendersons power, nothing else.

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I hear he was able to ragdoll Jones a few times. That said if Jones moved up I think he would end up with a lot more core strength.

A 240 lb. Jones would be a monster. He could legitimately put 20 of it on his chicken legs.

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Bonnar, Shogun and Rampage have iron chins. Rampage and Shogun also have a ton of power in their hands, Jones is pretty creative though and we saw he's not afraid to use his elbows as punches in the Rashad fight when he sent Rashad stumbling, that's an interesting tool to use on guys coming in on you.

The thing that makes Jones great though, is his work ethic, people may not like him as a person but this guy is a true student of the game and he's been blessed with some great skills for MMA. I think Machida, Gus, and Cormier might have a chance of beating him but I really think Jones could develop an awesome ground game off his back with his long limbs and what not.
True.

But his point that you need an iron chin and knockout power is still true. Its hard to see anyone beating Jones without those attributes.
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Like Anderson Silva jones have the perfect body for MMA.Those long limbs! He knows how to use the reach perfect but also being creative in his game makes him very difficult to face..

you need to be able to have a solid TDD and great ground game but be fast enough to step in and out. Those skinny leggs are easy target that needs to be used to your advantage.

i would like to se him against a BJJ specialist like Palhares.Someone in that league, would be very interesting to se how he could do against these type of fighters.
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Like Anderson Silva jones have the perfect body for MMA.Those long limbs!

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As far as bjj specialists go. I've seen that episode and I'm not interested in re-runs.

Jones is not going to allow the fight to go to the ground with fighters like that.

A. Silva had average tdd but we have seen what he did to bjj and wrestling specialists. Jones with his wrestling/grappling would be even more dominant because they would never be able to get him down or force him to fight their strengths.

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I would say Randy Coture style dirty boxing with the speed to get inside. I would say you have to be fast and react quickly get underneath that big long reach put him up against the cage and land some dirty boxing.

I would have loved to se how hendo would have done. I rember seeing rashad hit jones with a few H-bomb style punches but he doesnt have the power Hendo has. If he had the right game plan i could see hendo ducking a punch while throwing the H-Bomb and moving in at the same time then tying him up if bones doesnt go down.

If Chael could find away to get some power in his hands he would be an interesting match up because he would be fast enough to move inside and put bones against the cage. His dirty boxing wouldn't really have the power to hurt bones though.

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