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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old 08-28-2012, 09:52 AM Thread Starter
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How does a good in- fighting striker handle someone like Bones Jones??

Bones has a rare physique.

He can kick and punch you from the outside with ease.

Its hard to counter strike when you are out ranged so much.(Machida did well but had difficulties with this having to jump in is dangerous if you get hit on the way in to counter)

If you try to get into your punching range you are now dangerously close to hellbow range. (His elbows and knees are nearly as long as Hendos kicks and punches lol)

So how would a pro striker handle him standing?

How can fighters like vitor etc get inside and trade safely?
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They can't, and that is why he has demolished fighters like Shogun with ease.
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It's very difficult. There really isn't a "blueprint". I think one of the key things is to push him back and cut off the ring. Make sure he's struggling to use his reach as he's fighting off the back foot, pushes against the cage and stuff. Then hammer in with close hooks, in and out. A lot of footwork is needed to avoid the elbows and straights. As Rogan says, legkicks are an untapped possibility on someone like Jones. No one has really exploited it and there isn't too many people who I feel have a style suited to it at LHW, but if someone can bring Jose Aldo leg kicks to him, it might slow him down and make him drop down to his foundations rather than his unpredictable flashy shit (which is what puts you off so much).

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You have to stay out of his range at all times. So you're either, all the way back out, or really tight up close. Don't ever stay at Jones' kicking range where he can pick you off with ease.

Vitor's speciality is activating berserker mode and lunging in with a flurry of deadly punches. He definitely has the skill set to KO Jones, but he needs to make sure that before he attacks, he doesn't stand at Jones' range, he needs to back WAYYY off and wait for the perfect opportunity to lunge forwards and blitz Jones.

Much easier said than done.
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The only way is to have something that Hendo does and it is a rare commodity that you have to be born with, and Iron Chin.

Seriously, with a guy that knows how to use his range as well as Jones you have to know you are going to eat some punches and elbows. You have to be willing to eat those to land your strikes, so you also have to have KO or at least rocking power. If you don't have both of those then the best you can hope to do is what Lyoto did and attack behind an attack and hope to throw him off his game and finish him before he adapts.
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Nice answers guys thanks!!
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The only way is to have something that Hendo does and it is a rare commodity that you have to be born with, and Iron Chin.

Seriously, with a guy that knows how to use his range as well as Jones you have to know you are going to eat some punches and elbows. You have to be willing to eat those to land your strikes, so you also have to have KO or at least rocking power. If you don't have both of those then the best you can hope to do is what Lyoto did and attack behind an attack and hope to throw him off his game and finish him before he adapts.
Bonnar, Shogun and Rampage have iron chins. Rampage and Shogun also have a ton of power in their hands, Jones is pretty creative though and we saw he's not afraid to use his elbows as punches in the Rashad fight when he sent Rashad stumbling, that's an interesting tool to use on guys coming in on you.

The thing that makes Jones great though, is his work ethic, people may not like him as a person but this guy is a true student of the game and he's been blessed with some great skills for MMA. I think Machida, Gus, and Cormier might have a chance of beating him but I really think Jones could develop an awesome ground game off his back with his long limbs and what not.

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This isn't boxing. Being in the pocket against Jones is opening you up to elbow death. Plus, who on earth thinks it would be a good idea to get in close and get clinched? Bones and his ridiculous legs can trip anybody from the clinch.

Traditionally when a shorter fighter has to fight a much longer dude, the smaller guy nearly always has speed on their side. Bones is not slow by any stretch. Gus is a tad faster but simply not long enough. His reach is as absurdly short for his size ans Bones is long.

In a nutshell, with my limited knowledge, I believe the only person who can beat Jones right now is Jones.
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You have to mix it up and have a good TDD.

Going berzerker mode and just running straight at him has not worked.

I think most of you guys are right that leg kicks will need to be used. Bones likes to run straight back whenever someone launches, so there is a chance to chop him down with leg kicks when he does that and not risk the takedown as much.

Once you get him to stand there when you blitz him and anticipate the leg kick you can throw some straight punches down the pipe and catch him.

You need to be moving and working the angles in the meantime, never just stand in front of him and let him pop you with free jabs and kicks.
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We'd basically need a 205 pound Jose Aldo to kick these skinny legs out under Jones. I think they make a very obvious target. Though I can't really think of a LHW with great leg kicks who hasn't faced Jones already.




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