Shogun's Manager Explains Refusing Jones Rematch at 151 - MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos
UFC The Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) is a U.S.-based mixed martial arts organization, recognized as the largest MMA promotion in the world. The UFC is headquartered in Las Vegas, Nevada and is owned and operated by Zuffa, LLC. This promotion is responsible for solidifying the sport's postion in the history-books. UFC is currently undergoing a remarkable surge in popularity, along with greater mainstream media coverage. UFC programming can now be seen on FOX, FX, and FUEL TV in the United States, as well as in 35 other countries worldwide.

LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 08-28-2012, 03:11 PM Thread Starter
SM33's Avatar
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 4,130
Shogun's Manager Explains Refusing Jones Rematch at 151

Rua's Manager, Julio Heller:

"We were in Sao Paulo and my phone rang about midnight. It was Lorenzo (Fertitta). Lorenzo was on another call, so I talked to him like half hour later. He offered me a rematch against Jon Jones because Lyoto had declined it and asked me to give him an answer in ten minutes. I hung up and Mauricio was there with me. We talked and called Dida in Curitiba and we got to a conclusion we should accept the rematch, but only if Shogun had a couple of months to train and it would mean a fight later in October or in November. I said that to Lorenzo but he said there was no time because Jon Jones's fight is on September 22nd. Unfortunately, he couldn't give us this time but he understood.

Mauricio accepted at the time the new fight against Jon Jones. The ideal is a three-month camp but he said yes to a two-month camp fight. He wants to fight Jon Jones and it sucks it won't happen now. But Mauricio's shot will come."
I think when you've already lost to the guy, it's understandable wanting to be well prepared for a rematch. Shogun was in a 4 round war less than a month ago and probably just started training for Gustaf, Jones is peaked and ready to go.

Shogun has pride and wants the rematch, but not accepting the 151 slot was the sensible thing to do.

SM33 is offline  
Sponsored Links
post #2 of 7 (permalink) Old 08-28-2012, 03:23 PM
Calibretto9's Avatar
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,218
You'd have to be nuts to accept a fight with Jones on such a short notice, especially when you're last outing against him (when you were fully prepared) ended with you getting smoked. I think that's definitely the right call for Shogun.
Calibretto9 is offline  
post #3 of 7 (permalink) Old 08-28-2012, 03:54 PM
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 5,499
To be honest, while I blame a lot of people for not stepping up, I don't blame Shogun. As mentioned, he was in a war and while he is starting to prep for Gustaf, I bet it wasn't that long ago that he finally stopped hurting/aching from that fight with Vera.
cdtcpl is offline  
post #4 of 7 (permalink) Old 08-28-2012, 05:18 PM
Light Heavyweight
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: NC
Posts: 3,059
Would Shogun even be cleared to take the fight? He was in a brutal war against Vera not too long ago, theres just no way hes healthy enough to fight so soon. His body and his brain need time.

Attero Dominatus.
Terror Kovenant is offline  
post #5 of 7 (permalink) Old 08-29-2012, 04:50 AM
The 45%
ClydebankBlitz's Avatar
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 16,112
Blog Entries: 2
If Shogun was looking in as a spectator, he'd have taken the fight. It'd hard to see Shogun REALLY cleaning up the division and taking the title. He's an easy gatekeeper imo. I think Machida, Evans, Page etc. would all beat him. Sad to see, but Round 1-3 Vs Hendo and the Vera fight are just showing a slow and aged Shogun.

But at the same time, he's fighting and considered a top guy. He will truley believe in his ability to once again become the champion and won't see his downsides as harshly as us, so I don't blame him for turning it down.

ClydebankBlitz is offline  
post #6 of 7 (permalink) Old 08-29-2012, 07:12 AM
official thrash metal connoisseur
hellholming's Avatar
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Finland
Posts: 3,313
Originally Posted by ClydebankBlitz View Post
I think Machida, Evans, Page etc. would all beat him.

Evans I can see, but the others?

Fedor, Mir, Lytle, Serra, Hendo, Chuck, Minowaman, Maynard, Forrest, Hunt
Pickett, Cerrone, Matt Brown, Bisping, Weidman, Barnett, Lawler

hellholming is offline  
post #7 of 7 (permalink) Old 08-29-2012, 07:34 AM
The 45%
ClydebankBlitz's Avatar
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 16,112
Blog Entries: 2
Originally Posted by hellholming View Post

Evans I can see, but the others?
I know that Shogun has beat Machida twice already, but I don't see anyone not named Jones at LHW beating The Dragon. I think Shogun is looking TERRIBLE, and I think Machida would finish him tbh. Rampage is the closest one. Shogun seems fine to stand and bang and not even shoot these days, and Rampage has a new found hatred of all things "touching". I think Rampage would be able to edge him out in a stand up war. If the fight is 3 rounds, I see Rampage having the carido to deal with him. 5 rounds might be harder because there is no test to Shogun's heart and resolve.

ClydebankBlitz is offline  

Quick Reply

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:


Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On

For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome