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Old 08-30-2012, 08:19 AM   #51 (permalink)
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beating Lombard when he's on his game is a massive achievement and directly warrents a title shot.
wait, you said that Weidman has wins over nobodies. Isn't 85% of Lombard's wins over nobodies as well?
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wait, you said that Weidman has wins over nobodies. Isn't 85% of Lombard's wins over nobodies as well?
Yes. How is everyone getting my opponent suggestions misconscrewed so badly?

I don't think Lombard is near a title shot. He'd need at least 3 DOMINATING wins before being considered. With that being said, everyone knows his skills and abilities and legitimacy as a fighter. Everyone knows Weidman's skills, abilities and legitimacy as a fighter. If Weidman beat Lombard (If Lombard performs different from the Botsche fight), then of course that's a big win and one everyone will respect.
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Yes. How is everyone getting my opponent suggestions misconscrewed so badly?

I don't think Lombard is near a title shot. He'd need at least 3 DOMINATING wins before being considered. With that being said, everyone knows his skills and abilities and legitimacy as a fighter. Everyone knows Weidman's skills, abilities and legitimacy as a fighter. If Weidman beat Lombard (If Lombard performs different from the Botsche fight), then of course that's a big win and one everyone will respect.
ah, thanks for clearing that up.
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ah, thanks for clearing that up.
Weidman is the most legit contender, but I don't think he IS a legit contender, if you get me. Well, not based off two good opponents anyways.
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Weidman is the most legit contender, but I don't think he IS a legit contender, if you get me. Well, not based off two good opponents anyways.
Exactly the problem. I wrote a post more then a year ago ranting about the wafer thin depth of the divisions in the UFC. Dana using words like "stacked" all the time when the reality is they are far from it. Remove the top 5 from any division and you are left with fighters not deserving of a title shot. Any division with a dominant champion is soon left scraping barrels.

This is why any form of UFC rankings are useless. Being a "top 10" fighter means 1000x more in boxing then the UFC. The term "top 10" doesn't work when you only have 20 quality fighters. Wheres the prestige in being "top 50%"?

Chris Weidman is a top 5 UFC middleweight and yet he's barely had any top level fights. Ridiculous. We should ban the use of terms like "top 5" and "top 10". Makes us sound like idiots to fans of other sports where those terms carry serious kudos.
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Exactly the problem. I wrote a post more then a year ago ranting about the wafer thin depth of the divisions in the UFC. Dana using words like "stacked" all the time when the reality is they are far from it. Remove the top 5 from any division and you are left with fighters not deserving of a title shot. Any division with a dominant champion is soon left scraping barrels.

This is why any form of UFC rankings are useless. Being a "top 10" fighter means 1000x more in boxing then the UFC. The term "top 10" doesn't work when you only have 20 quality fighters. Wheres the prestige in being "top 50%"?

Chris Weidman is a top 5 UFC middleweight and yet he's barely had any top level fights. Ridiculous. We should ban the use of terms like "top 5" and "top 10". Makes us sound like idiots to fans of other sports where those terms carry serious kudos.
Yeah, lets say Wiedman gets the shot.

The next challenger will probably be Bispin/Stann Vs Belcher. Then who? Weidman will be gone, Bisping/Stann and Belcher will all be gone (After Silva beats the winner of them).

I cant wait for Silva to retire because it solidifies his legend and opens up the division.
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