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**deadmanshand** · 08-30-2012, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Canadian Psycho

I don't see why people get their panties in a bind over the opinions of forum goers. Do we all have to like and praise every fighter in existence? I have a fair amount of respect for anyone who steps inside that cage, as a fighter, but that doesn't mean I have to like him or her as a person. Plenty of people dislike Chael Sonnen the man and you'll rarely see me try to protest that anymore. There's no written rule that we all have to hold hands whilst dancing around a giant rainbow.

Bing, bing, bing! We have a winner!

Ryan1522 · 08-30-2012, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by deadmanshand

Sideways and I have had disagreements but - this time - how is he wrong? For calling a fighter a bitch? Most of us have said worse about other fighters and being a fighter - even a champion - doesn't make you above such labels. Tito was a champion and a douchebag. Floyd Mayweather is one of the best boxers alive, a champion, and a raging cockmonkey. Matt Hughes was one of the most dominant champions of all time, smashed people, and was still a sanctimonious jackhole.

Putting that belt around your waist guarantees that you will be in the public eye and thus they must be held accountable for their words and actions. You don't hold Joe the Plumber to the same light because his life isn't the public eye. You only see the veneer and not the person. Jon Jones is letting us see the person he is. An amazing athlete, amazing fighter, and whining bitch.

As for whether or not this article is true I have no idea. Dave Meltzer is the Dean Koontz of mma articles. Puts out a ton of them but very few good ones. We're much more likely to get Cold Fire or Twilight Eyes than Intensity or Phantoms.

In no way shape or form am I condoning the behavior of Jones. I was thoroughly disappointed with his decision to not fight Chael. Whether or not the story about the phone call to Dana is true or not remains to be seen, but it's comical nonetheless and I'm not disputing it's truth as an argument.

As kooky as Matt Hughes, Mayweather, Ortiz and Jones, as of late, have been I would never label men who fight for a living as a bitch.

That's my point.

**Ape City** · 08-30-2012, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Best Around

Nobody is arguing about the part where Bones said he'd fight Sonnen any time, and then he didn't. We are saying that we doubt Bones went to Dana and told him to ask Sonnen to stop mocking him. It's not beyond Meltzer to take a story and juice it up a little bit. He's ALWAYS done that with wrestling too and has spread to MMA in recent years.

Oops sorry I misunderstood!

**deadmanshand** · 08-30-2012, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan1522

In no way shape or form am I condoning the behavior of Jones. I was thoroughly disappointed with his decision to not fight Chael. Whether or not the story about the phone call to Dana is true or not remains to be seen, but it's comical nonetheless and I'm not disputing it's truth as an argument.

As kooky as Matt Hughes, Mayweather, Ortiz and Jones, as of late, have been I would never label men who fight for a living as a bitch.

That's my point.

Why? What keeps a fighter from being a bitch? He's not saying he's a coward. He's saying he's a bitch for backing out on his word, snitching on people, and - potentially - calling Daddy Dana to make Chael be quiet. Jones believes everybody owes him but he doesn't want to step up unless he has every advantage on his side. Those are the qualities of a bitch.

What would you call him if not a bitch?

ptw · 08-30-2012, 06:38 PM

LMFAO this is hilarious.

What's even funnier is how big of an ass whooping Jones will give Chael if they do fight with all the bickering Chael has done; Jones does not seem happy with his behavior at all.

**locnott** · 08-30-2012, 09:08 PM

You might say that Sonnen has disrespected Jones.

Joabbuac · 08-31-2012, 12:02 AM

Jones is emotional, not very strong mentally outside of the cage maybe. Even walking in he looks scared. Then the bell ring...rocks fall, everyone dies.

**Ape City** · 08-31-2012, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryan1522

I could totally see him calling Dana up and pleading for him to get him to stop Chael from ripping on him.

Why do people care? Do you buy PPV's based on the morals of fighter's or do you buy them to be entertained by their fighting abilities?

I don't care if he broke down crying on FOX about Chael picking on him. I'd still buy his fights because other than Anderson, no one is more entertaining to watch than him.

People can label him whatever they want and find reasons to hate him or to not support him, but he's going to be kicking ass for years to come.

Kind of disgusted by the people calling him a bitch because in reality not one of you calling him a bitch would say that to his face.

Easy to get on the internet and call people a bitch when there is no consequence for it.

Totally agree about buying his fights and wanting to watch him fight. that hasnt changed one bit for me. I will still buy a Jon Jones ppv and I will still be very excited to see him fight. The dude is just a force of nature. But holy shit, has this ever tarnished his reputation as what some would call a "warrior" and not a businessman.

My reaction to your last two paragraphs is I guess expected; i'm truly surprised you even feel the need to bring up whether or not someone would call JJ a bitch to his face. Isn't that what a forum is for? To be able to anonymously discus our opinions with no real consequence? I just don't understand why this is brought up time and time again. The 'ol "You would do her in real life" or "you would't say that to his face" argument is about as old as the dinosaurs and really makes no sense. What are we doing here if we can't discuss how we feel about the sport openly?

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Originally Posted by Aiken

Yeah - you're going to walk up to the UFC LHW champion and call him a bitch - of course you are <giggle>

And then when said champion puts you over his knee and spanks your butt the rest of the world is going to think he's a bigger bitch?

Show me on the doll where the bad man touched you!

You're joking right? You really think if I went up to JJ and called hima bitch he would get himself sent to jail by attacking me? You know that if you are trained it is considered assault with a deadly weapon right? You giggle but your comments make me giggle more. Someone like JJ is literally the safest person to call a bitch. He has everything to lose.

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Originally Posted by deadmanshand

Sideways and I have had disagreements but - this time - how is he wrong? For calling a fighter a bitch? Most of us have said worse about other fighters and being a fighter - even a champion - doesn't make you above such labels. Tito was a champion and a douchebag. Floyd Mayweather is one of the best boxers alive, a champion, and a raging cockmonkey. Matt Hughes was one of the most dominant champions of all time, smashed people, and was still a sanctimonious jackhole.

Putting that belt around your waist guarantees that you will be in the public eye and thus they must be held accountable for their words and actions. You don't hold Joe the Plumber to the same light because his life isn't the public eye. You only see the veneer and not the person. Jon Jones is letting us see the person he is. An amazing athlete, amazing fighter, and whining bitch.

As for whether or not this article is true I have no idea. Dave Meltzer is the Dean Koontz of mma articles. Puts out a ton of them but very few good ones. We're much more likely to get Cold Fire or Twilight Eyes than Intensity or Phantoms.

Damn dude, this. Rag on Sideways all you want but he is right this time. Smart move or not, it was a bitch move.

**SideWays222** · 08-31-2012, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by locnott

Im pretty sure jones would not do anything to sideways for calling him a bitch, sideways could simply walk off while jon was on the phone asking greg or winklejon what he should do.

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Originally Posted by deadmanshand

He might not call his coaches. He could call Dana and ask him to make the bad man stop.

You guys are both wrong.

Im pretty sure he would pull out a bible, quote some verses, and try to bless me.

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Originally Posted by Canadian Psycho

I don't see why people get their panties in a bind over the opinions of forum goers. Do we all have to like and praise every fighter in existence? I have a fair amount of respect for anyone who steps inside that cage, as a fighter, but that doesn't mean I have to like him or her as a person. Plenty of people dislike Chael Sonnen the man and you'll rarely see me try to protest that anymore. There's no written rule that we all have to hold hands whilst dancing around a giant rainbow.

Yeah i completely agree.

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Originally Posted by WizeKraker

Seems like a jones move haha

Little baby bones calls up daddy dana to complain that the big bad chael hurt his feelings.. Sh!t.. That's just too f*ckin funny.

It does seem like a Jones move doesnt it lol???

tap nap or snap · 08-31-2012, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by deadmanshand

Why? What keeps a fighter from being a bitch? He's not saying he's a coward. He's saying he's a bitch for backing out on his word, snitching on people, and - potentially - calling Daddy Dana to make Chael be quiet. Jones believes everybody owes him but he doesn't want to step up unless he has every advantage on his side. Those are the qualities of a bitch.

What would you call him if not a bitch?

tried to rep you for this, but have to spread it 1st. jon is being a bitch. he's a bad ass bitch that can fight, but a bitch none the less