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Old 09-09-2012, 11:01 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I know it's impossible, but I would be really curious to see total earnings after PPV buys, locker room bonuses, sponsorships etc. I know GSP has publicly stated he makes between 4-5 million per fight and I'm not sure if that included sponsorship money.
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Old 09-09-2012, 11:10 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I didn't add it up but it looks like Mayweather makes about as much in 1 fight as every UFC fighter makes their entire career combined.

There may be a couple guys getting PPV earnings, but there'S REALLY NO DEBATE, THE UFC IS ROBBING THEIR FIGHTERS BLIND.

150 UFC EVENTS AND EVERY UFC FIGHTER IN HISTORY COMBINED TO MAKE WHAT MAYWEATHER MAKES IN 1 FIGHT.
That's because Mayweather is also a promoter and gets a piece of everything.
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:58 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Yeah but 1k Vs 20k, and the fact that I'm not a trained fighter who has a chance of winning...it all adds up. Fighting is different from other sports. These people are "fighters". Part of being a fighter is stepping up to all challengers. Fighting was never about money. Sure they needed the pay check but these gguys could earn more completing a business degree and getting a bank job etc. They fight because they are fighters and they enjoy it. When people says that they dont get enough, tell that to Royce Gracie or Ken Shamrock who were fighting for nothing at the start. Royce stepped up because he was a fighter. He didn't have lots of money and didn't have much to gain by winning. He was a trained athlete who wanted to prove himself by taking on all challengers, big or small. It's those funamentals that MMA is based on, so when everyone says "UFC is screwing them out of money" that shouldnt be the issue.

Also, they get LOADS of post fight bonus money. Like, insane amounts. I imagine that the majority of the UFC profits are going towards increasing the venue size and trying to continue expanding the sport to the further mainstream.

It's also unfair to compair the paychecks of Mayweather to UFC, because Mayweather completley smashes UFC in PPV buy rates. UFC has only ever beat Mayweather's second highest buy rates once, so putting the two together is irrelevent for whoever did.
The thing is, MMA is now gearing towards being a "sport". You can argue all day long about how MMA should be about the spirit of fighting, not money. However, do most MMA fighters in this era agree with that? No. Sure, they have a passion for fighting, but fighting for a low sum of money is not a viable career.

If the average UFC fighter earns 100k per year, taking away taxes and training camp fees, they would probably have a net disposable income of 20k~40k annually ( assuming that each training camp costs about 20k, as what Lauzon said ). That is barring injuries or fights getting cancelled. Which elite athlete would consider MMA as a career then? They would earn much more competing in other sports, or as you said, completing a business degree and getting a bank job.

The low sum of money paid would deter many athletes from even considering a career in MMA. Yes, these people most probably do not fight because they love fighting. However, MMA would be reduced to a sport with a few special fighters and a large number of people who fight as a hobby or as a second job. UFC needs to start paying out higher wages to attract elite athletes, and that would be the route to MMA being a major sport globally.

I'm sure most sports wasn't all about money in the beginning. Did people play soccer for the money back in the days? Obviously not. Yet, look at what soccer has become. A worldwide sport with top-notch athletes plying their trade in the various soccer leagues around the world. Why is that so? Lets take an example. I'm sure Cristiano Ronaldo loves soccer, having played from young. But hell, he earns 350k USD per WEEK. The money involved is a huge incentive for people to take the sport they love as a career, and not just a hobby.

For MMA to progress, there is only one way up. Start paying fighters more money to attract better talent.
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Old 09-10-2012, 02:38 AM   #34 (permalink)
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The thing is, MMA is now gearing towards being a "sport". You can argue all day long about how MMA should be about the spirit of fighting, not money. However, do most MMA fighters in this era agree with that? No. Sure, they have a passion for fighting, but fighting for a low sum of money is not a viable career.

If the average UFC fighter earns 100k per year, taking away taxes and training camp fees, they would probably have a net disposable income of 20k~40k annually ( assuming that each training camp costs about 20k, as what Lauzon said ). That is barring injuries or fights getting cancelled. Which elite athlete would consider MMA as a career then? They would earn much more competing in other sports, or as you said, completing a business degree and getting a bank job.

The low sum of money paid would deter many athletes from even considering a career in MMA. Yes, these people most probably do not fight because they love fighting. However, MMA would be reduced to a sport with a few special fighters and a large number of people who fight as a hobby or as a second job. UFC needs to start paying out higher wages to attract elite athletes, and that would be the route to MMA being a major sport globally.

I'm sure most sports wasn't all about money in the beginning. Did people play soccer for the money back in the days? Obviously not. Yet, look at what soccer has become. A worldwide sport with top-notch athletes plying their trade in the various soccer leagues around the world. Why is that so? Lets take an example. I'm sure Cristiano Ronaldo loves soccer, having played from young. But hell, he earns 350k USD per WEEK. The money involved is a huge incentive for people to take the sport they love as a career, and not just a hobby.

For MMA to progress, there is only one way up. Start paying fighters more money to attract better talent.
The sport is still in its adolescense. There's a flip side to your statement.

1.) If they paid seven or eight figures then they'll end up like Affliction. Top athletes are already making seven figures.
2.) As pay scale increases so will the demand from all other fighters and who pays for this in the end. That's right it's the consumers.

I have friends who own restaurants and lounges who tell me how much they have to pay to get PPVs in their establishment. Some places charge cover.

Ticket prices will go up, PVPS will go from $50 to $75 and so on and so forth.

*I've also read pink sheets of other past shows. Bodog Proelite, Affliction were in the negative $50 million range.

The UFC have the right model in place.
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Old 09-10-2012, 05:34 AM   #35 (permalink)
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A piece was posted up on here a little while back, regards a new fighter on the UFC roster. I cant remember who. He basically outlined that his purse for his fight was around 15k but in reality he earned 80k. That's over 7 times his purse. And this guy was a relative no-name.
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Old 09-10-2012, 07:33 AM   #36 (permalink)
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The thing is, MMA is now gearing towards being a "sport". You can argue all day long about how MMA should be about the spirit of fighting, not money. However, do most MMA fighters in this era agree with that? No. Sure, they have a passion for fighting, but fighting for a low sum of money is not a viable career.

If the average UFC fighter earns 100k per year, taking away taxes and training camp fees, they would probably have a net disposable income of 20k~40k annually ( assuming that each training camp costs about 20k, as what Lauzon said ). That is barring injuries or fights getting cancelled. Which elite athlete would consider MMA as a career then? They would earn much more competing in other sports, or as you said, completing a business degree and getting a bank job.

The low sum of money paid would deter many athletes from even considering a career in MMA. Yes, these people most probably do not fight because they love fighting. However, MMA would be reduced to a sport with a few special fighters and a large number of people who fight as a hobby or as a second job. UFC needs to start paying out higher wages to attract elite athletes, and that would be the route to MMA being a major sport globally.

I'm sure most sports wasn't all about money in the beginning. Did people play soccer for the money back in the days? Obviously not. Yet, look at what soccer has become. A worldwide sport with top-notch athletes plying their trade in the various soccer leagues around the world. Why is that so? Lets take an example. I'm sure Cristiano Ronaldo loves soccer, having played from young. But hell, he earns 350k USD per WEEK. The money involved is a huge incentive for people to take the sport they love as a career, and not just a hobby.

For MMA to progress, there is only one way up. Start paying fighters more money to attract better talent.
I do think fighters of this era agree with that. Who doesnt? I hear two examples all the time; Jon Jones and Anderson Silva. Jones speaks for himself, but Silva's entire career is geared towards his legacy and has nothing to do with money. Check the tweets after Jones turned the fight down. Everyone is still a fighter, nothing has changed. We just have smarks all over these forums now.
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Old 09-10-2012, 07:46 AM   #37 (permalink)
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I do think fighters of this era agree with that. Who doesnt? I hear two examples all the time; Jon Jones and Anderson Silva. Jones speaks for himself, but Silva's entire career is geared towards his legacy and has nothing to do with money. Check the tweets after Jones turned the fight down. Everyone is still a fighter, nothing has changed. We just have smarks all over these forums now.
I think I agree. I believe if we gave each fighter the option of earning 1 million a year sitting behind a desk or 250k a year fighting, the vast majority would still be a fighter.

We fans, myself included, like to rag on moany sports people going on about money. God knows, UK footballers make me want to kill them all. Arguing that a salary of 100k a week is not enough for them. But if push came to shove and they had to choose between huge riches or playing football, they would choose footie. End of the day, they love that shit.
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A piece was posted up on here a little while back, regards a new fighter on the UFC roster. I cant remember who. He basically outlined that his purse for his fight was around 15k but in reality he earned 80k. That's over 7 times his purse. And this guy was a relative no-name.
I think it was Ian McCall and i had never heard of him before he came into the UFC with the new weight class.
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The people saying that MMA fighters don't earn enough money are the same people that will be complaining that everything is commercialised in MMA in 10 years time.

Money ruins shit. It's as simple as that. It makes footballers dive, it makes boxers pick and choose, it makes pro wrestlers appear sporadically, it makes pornstars stop taking it in the bumhole...everything.

MMA fighters earn a lot of money. It's as simple as that. 15k a fight is a lot of money. The expenses they have are really not that big of a deal. They book all their friends flights and stuff because they want to prove they are a draw, and in turn earn MORE money. If they just sat on the 15k, take (complete guess) 5k out of that training camp, and at worst take 5k out of that for other exprenses, these people are making 5 thousand dollars for (at that amount) 15 minutes of fighting. Tell at guy on minimum wage that UFC fighters dont earn enough money and we'll see what he says.
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Old 09-10-2012, 08:54 AM   #40 (permalink)
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I think it was Ian McCall and i had never heard of him before he came into the UFC with the new weight class.
Thats the one. I found the piece: http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/7/16...r-pay-mma-news

The dudes purse was $9000. He lost the fight and still walked away with $80k. So, he earned over 8 times his purse!

People saying the UFC take advantage of the fighters, please read the above link. They get paid very well. Just because its not publicised, it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
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