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post #11 of 69 (permalink) Old 09-08-2012, 08:16 AM
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Don't forget all the marketing expenses. Every person who was working on UFC 151 in some way wasted their time and therefore wasted money. Plus they still have to pay all the fighters 50% of their show money. All of these are effectively expenses, not 'missed profits'.




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More exaggerated nonsense and hysteria. If we're counting "potential" PPV buys as losses, might as well count potential lottery wins.

The UFC didn't incur most of the actual costs of hosting the event i.e. venue, lighting, crew, fighter pays, bonuses, telecasting etc. They have no right to count PPVs without even hosting the event, just because they marketed it for a few million. That's a business risk THEY took, marketing such a top heavy card. Apart from that they didn't actually spend anything on creating the actual product and yet they want to count it's revenue?

It's like me saying, I THOUGHT about making a million dollar painting and had a buyer lined up, but then I thought naaah lets not, too much work. But I'd still like my million bucks please! It's my right!

And even if they did, what a shame. The poor multi-billion $ corporation actually taking a relatively tiny hit for it's OWN decisions. I say in the spirit of America, we need to line up some middle class schlobs to bail the poor hapless corporation out, Dana needs at least one more solid gold toilet seat for his poodle's bathroom.
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^it's not akin to counting lottery tickets. If Zuffa was publicly traded Jon Jones would probably be kicked out of the UFC forever for how badly of an effect cancelling an event had.
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If we're counting "potential" PPV buys as losses, might as well count potential lottery wins.
oh, please. The UFC have done enough PPVs by now that they know a certain guaranteed amount of the PPVs will be sold.


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There was no telling how much Jones/Hendo would have sold, it's safe to say 450,000 is the least but would it have got over 700,000 which was the amount of buys Jones did against Rashad?

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^it's not akin to counting lottery tickets. If Zuffa was publicly traded Jon Jones would probably be kicked out of the UFC forever for how badly of an effect cancelling an event had.
Come on, to blame it on one fighter (in this case Jones) is nonsense. Jones had a contract to fight Henderson. If he had a contract to fight Henderson OR any other fighter if Henderson got injured, he would have had to fight, but there wasn't such a contract. And even if he had, what would have happened when he also got injured¿ It would have been the same situation. During the last year or two we have seen how many fighters got injured. So it's plain dumb from the UFC to not have regular replacement fighters as a backup. The UFC made the card, they took the risk to put it all on one fight/fighter. After Koscheck pulled out, the card got considerably weaker and they didn't take any safety measurements. They played it risky and they lost. Jones is only a small factor in the whole case.
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oh, please. The UFC have done enough PPVs by now that they know a certain guaranteed amount of the PPVs will be sold.
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There was no telling how much Jones/Hendo would have sold, it's safe to say 450,000 is the least but would it have got over 700,000 which was the amount of buys Jones did against Rashad?
Even so, the fact remains they never actually created the product, marketing has to < 10% of the total cost. It's not like they're renting superbowl ad slots or anything. You can't count revenue when you haven't even put in the cost.
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If Jon Jones showed up on September 1st instead of backing out for a bitch reason. This never would have happened.


If the UFC booked a different main event from the get go instead of Jones this never would have happened.

If the UFC never gave Jones a job years ago. This never would have happened.
Ignorant post. Yes, Bones is at fault. So is Hendo for waiting 2 weeks to speak out. And so is the UFC for putting on a card where the co-main event was a PPV opener and all the other fights belonged on unaired pre-lims for FX.

Solid article, but Sonnen is FAR from a draw. Rampage/Hammill with a scrapped main event did 100K more than Sonnen/Stann, and Sonnen/Stann had two title fights on it. The last PPV he had was just something special.


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Ignorant post. Yes, Bones is at fault. So is Hendo for waiting 2 weeks to speak out. And so is the UFC for putting on a card where the co-main event was a PPV opener and all the other fights belonged on unaired pre-lims for FX.

Solid article, but Sonnen is FAR from a draw. Rampage/Hammill with a scrapped main event did 100K more than Sonnen/Stann, and Sonnen/Stann had two title fights on it. The last PPV he had was just something special.


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It's what you reiterate in every thread. How do you know nobody else would have done this? No other champion in today's UFC has been given this situation. The sport has changed and money is different from Pride 2004. Would Lyoto Machida have fought someone on eight days notice? Who knows. But to act like only Bones would turn down a fight in this situation is indeed ignorant in my opinion.


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