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Old 09-11-2012, 06:07 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Of course they are similarities, but I references what is MORE similar. What the judges judge on is more important than what method and formula they use to do so. UFC judges highly on control while Pride judged highly on attacks. Boxing doesnt judge on who pushes their opponent back more, only on punches, so in that aspect I'd definently say it is more similar to the Pride system rather than UFC's.
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Old 09-11-2012, 06:09 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Old 09-11-2012, 06:27 PM   #43 (permalink)
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So, again, just no rebuttles, intelligent points or informative remarks from you eh slapster?
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:40 PM   #44 (permalink)
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THIS. Not sure as an MMA fan why you disliked Pride but that's beside the point.

The fun factor in the UFC is undoubtedly shrinking. There are too many ways to win via not fighting, the rules, referees and judges they have to use are completely flawed, the commentary is bland and on Goldy's part horribly inaccurate.

I still watch every event, either live or the next day with Sky record. I still find it exciting and still see great fighters emerging all the time. I definitely get more fun out of the lower ranked fights lately though, guys who don't have a huge name, guys on the prelims. There will always be that fierce tension of a renowned fighter walking to the cage, but too often over the past year are those big fights a bit bland and frankly unimpressive.

Money, fighters, and the combination of the two is not the problem. Fighters must be paid, and like anyone else they try to get as much as they can as easily as they can, which is fine. Just eliminate the easy paths to the dough, like the way fights are scored and refereed, and the fights will change. None of these guys are scared to fight, but lately I see the fear to lose. If you are prepared for a fight, confident in your body, your skills and mental strength, losing is not an option. You think you can't lose. Then if you do lose, you come back even hungrier. I don't see that in certain fighters lately even when they claim to be highly prepared.

I don't want to watch mindless brawling, I don't want to watch full body fencing either. I want to see skilled aggression and defense, I want fighters to see the 15 or 25 minute limit as a challenge, you have this amount of time to impose your talent and stop this human from doing the same. Don't look at it as how long you've got to stall and look busy, then nail cardiovascular exercises for three months.
not sure why i could not get into pride either, ive tried many times too

Too much pressure is put on winning and not enough on putting on a great fight, honestly for me putting on a boring fight should hurt a career more then losing when your trying your hardest. I know dana feels the same way and im not sure why he has not figured out a way to solve the fact that allot of his fighters dont fight anymore.

You say you like prelims more now and i cant agree more, i think a big reason why they are better is ko of the night, sub of the night and FotN bonuses mean more to them since they are not making the money the bigger name guys are.

There needs to be a crappy fight of the night negative bonus where if you put on a piss poor boring fight you get money takin away, this will have some controversy as so very exciting figters could be help down all fight or have to chase their the other fighter all match but its there fault for not figure out how to neutralize the fighter also imo.

I just hate that i am getting less and less excited each ppv, this is the only sport i love and have done so for a long time but i have been getting bored way more then i should as of late.

If this is affecting me as a long time fan the way that it is i cant imagine what it is doing to the casual fan or new comers
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Old 09-12-2012, 09:57 AM   #45 (permalink)
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I agree.
The one thing that will hurt MMA is the big stars not fighting and that's what guys like Anderson and Jones need to get over. I can see points for both of them(Weidman not being marketable, Chael potentially knowing Hendo was hurt for weeks) but I still don't like them doing it.
This argument holds no weight.

Why bring up Anderson when saying stars need to fight more? Since UFC 100 where GSP fought and 101 where Silva fought 6 times where GSP has fought 4 times. GSP has had injuries. Silva had injuries.

I hate Jones, but since UFC 100 which he fought on he has fought 9 TIMES!

So when you want to use an example as for who should fight more why don't you use GSP? Because that is the correct example. Or any HW champs because HW is so thin champs defend like once a year.

Also, it isn't just math. It isn't oh this guy should fight no less than 4 times a year. These people have families. Getting punched in the head causes harm to the body. Anderson has fought 36 times where a guy was trying to take his head off. Plus a couple boxing matches and the uncountable number of scraps and hard sparring sessions in training. It isn't a video game. These are real people. Anderson is almost 38 he should be fighting less not more. Chuck only had 29 fights. I suppose you believe he should went a few more? I can see fighter safety isn't of any concern to you...but then again you would rather watch semi-contact karte than an actual UFC fight.
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To me it's simple. The UFC Has pretty much maxed out. The FOX deal may give them a blip over the next couple of years, but it won't lead to long term success.

The UFC/Dana have always talked about wanting to be a legit sport. Of course that means being like the NFL and MLB etc.

Here is one simple question. When was the last time to paid any money, let alone $60.00 to watch an NFL game on Sunday or Monday Night (sometimes Thursday and Sat. and now apparently Weds as well)?
The answer is never. Of course you pay your cable bill, but you don't need to drop $60.00 every time you want to watch a big game.

As long as the UFC relies on PPV dollars and not advertisting and network dollars for it's success, it will never be more than it is. Sure it will Ebb and Flow above where it is now, but this is it.

The injuries don't help either. It's one thing to anticipate an NFL game and then find out the starting running back is injured. That I can deal with. But it's far worse to be anticipating a playoff game only to find out the entire opponent is different, In the case of the NFL, that is like having a replacement team step in. Yeah it's still a game, but not what I have been waiting for.
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I think I've become a little bit spoiled by the UFC..the truth is there are always exciting fights/events/ppvs etc, there are tons of exciting fights/fighters, and a lot of great talent right now, and almost always great matchups.

I think I'm just used to it to the point that whenever there is a dip, a subpar performance from a talent, a bad gameplan that results in a boring fight, a decision fight when neither fighter goes for the finish etcetc, I feel a bit letdown.

But whatever, I always come back cos it's still all pretty great imo. Would be cool if there was an automatic bonus for any KO or submission or any winner that doesn't go the distance, and an auto bonus for any fight that is exciting as well, but that's upto UFC management to sort out.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:43 AM   #48 (permalink)
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I think I've become a little bit spoiled by the UFC..the truth is there are always exciting fights/events/ppvs etc, there are tons of exciting fights/fighters, and a lot of great talent right now, and almost always great matchups.

I think I'm just used to it to the point that whenever there is a dip, a subpar performance from a talent, a bad gameplan that results in a boring fight, a decision fight when neither fighter goes for the finish etcetc, I feel a bit letdown.

But whatever, I always come back cos it's still all pretty great imo. Would be cool if there was an automatic bonus for any KO or submission or any winner that doesn't go the distance, and an auto bonus for any fight that is exciting as well, but that's upto UFC management to sort out.
I'm the exact same.

And yeah, maybe it'd be good if they added the TUF style bonuses in. I know some guys fight for decisions, but the UFC's slogan is "don't leave it in the hands of the judges" so it'd make sense.
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