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post #21 of 49 (permalink) Old 09-10-2012, 08:15 PM
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That's not what I was commenting on. I was merely pointing that you were incorrect on that matter and using incorrect information to form your opinion of Sonnen's boxing. Sonnen did win that round but not because he has above average striking.

I'm actually staying out of the GSP/Anderson debate.

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post #22 of 49 (permalink) Old 09-10-2012, 08:17 PM
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The OP makes some good points but I think you underestimate the size difference. GSP does have amazing take downs and top control (the best in MMA in both cases probably) and I think he will get Silva down but I don't think he will take him down at will and I think Silva will be able to get back up often enough that a good portion of the fight will be standing. GSP is a hell of a lot better standing than people give him credit for but Silva is still significantly better and add in the size and reach disadvantage and that will make for a tough fight.

Not an unwinnable fight for GSP but I would certainly favour Silva if I were setting the line. It is pretty simple, when a good big guy fights a good little guy, the big guy wins. GSP got to be the big guy against Penn, now he gets to see how that fight goes from the other end. I don't expect it to be as lopsided as GSP-Penn II but I don't expect GSP to win either.
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My simple philosophical question would be:

Then why do a majority of GSP fans not want the fight? While pretty much all Silva fans not only want the fight? But welcome it?
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post #24 of 49 (permalink) Old 09-10-2012, 08:42 PM
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GSP isn't a pressure fighter like Sonnen. he likes to stay on the outside and pot shot. he won't be able to do that with Silva.
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I think from training against Chael so much, Anderson has strengthened his TTD to where he can stifle GSP and keep it standing just enough to get the knock out.
That's definitely a valid point.
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That's not what I was commenting on. I was merely pointing that you were incorrect on that matter and using incorrect information to form your opinion of Sonnen's boxing. Sonnen did win that round but not because he has above average striking.

I'm actually staying out of the GSP/Anderson debate.
I think you actually missed my point though. I wasn't arguing that Sonnen outstruck Anderson, but that his striking game was good enough that he avoided getting in any serious trouble on the feet. So I stand by my original argument that Sonnen was able to avoid being in any kind of real trouble on the feet. That was the only point I made, and you still haven't refuted.
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GSP isn't a pressure fighter like Sonnen. he likes to stay on the outside and pot shot. he won't be able to do that with Silva.
See I think people are missing the boat on this as well. GSP is certainly a pressure fighter. He may not chase guys head hunting, but Sonnen didn't do that either. He traded a bit and then grabbed a double. GSP has a very similar style. Yeah he does have good footwork when he needs it, but GSP will move forward on Anderson, no question about it.
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I think you actually missed my point though. I wasn't arguing that Sonnen outstruck Anderson, but that his striking game was good enough that he avoided getting in any serious trouble on the feet. So I stand by my original argument that Sonnen was able to avoid being in any kind of real trouble on the feet. That was the only point I made, and you still haven't refuted.
Except for the point that Silva has dropped him twice standing. So he avoided getting in serious trouble how? Did you not watch the second fight where he was casually out struck in round two barring the part where he clinched Anderson against the cage?

There your point's refuted.

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I wish this were true, nobody would like it to be true more than me, but I still think this is a very tough matchup for GSP.

Obviously he has ways to win, but bottom line, in that fight, size will matter. If the skill is equal, or close to equal, size really matters, and no matter what weight they fight at, if they fight, Silva is significantly bigger, minimum 10-15 pounds, probably more like 20.

GSP can outwrestle Silva, obviously he can, but he has to get Silva down to do that, and has to do it without getting hammered. I love me my GSP, but thats a tall order against a guy with Silva's reach and size.

And the fact GSP is a such a good striker in some ways might make it harder for him. I don't agree that Sonnen's boxing is that good at all, I think Sonnen just had some success because he was fearless and caught Silva off guard. Well, Silva sure as hell won't underestimate GSP that way.

If Silva is careful and uses his reach, I think he can make life awfully hard for GSP. GSP has awesome speed and power, he could get Silva down and keep him there, but if I have to bet on someone, I'm still betting on Silva, and thats coming from a huge GSP nuthugger.
I'm a huge GSP fan as well, and I feel the exact same way
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The OP makes some good points but I think you underestimate the size difference.
Exactly.

Check this out and I know size isn't everything, but there seems to be a pretty big difference in my eyes. And when two competitors are as skilled as these two are, size makes a big difference in my opinion.



1. BJ "The Prodigy" Penn
2. Dan "Hollywood" Henderson
3. George "Rush" St Pierre
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