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Old 09-20-2012, 11:32 AM   #41 (permalink)
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I guess Sooj was the only one to get the sarcasm then.

Tyson was never "beloved". He was respected.

And to be honest, if you want to check his record he choked when it really mattered. Tyson smashed his way through cans in amazing fashion. I mean sure, they were world champions then, but theres a reason we have no idea about them now. Ali beat Forman and we still know who George was. George smashed Frazier and we still know who Frazier is. Tyson was killing nobodies, raped a chick, went to jail for 3 years, came out, had one great win over Frank Bruno and then got schooled by Holyfield and everyone else who was great after that.



Actually, thinking back, it was probably Don King that raped that chick, and framed Tyson...it all makes sense!
Yea, its a shame Tyson didnt have some serious talent to go up against when he was in his pomp. The only reason I think he was the real deal is: When I think of all the greatest HW boxers of the past, I can see them making mince meat of all of Tysons opponents. However, Tyson also tore through them like a superb HW fighter should. I'm not sure those cans could have been crushed any more efficiently then they we're.

Ultimately, he was never tested when he was at his peak. It's a very sad thing. I believe he would have been very impressive against any of the legendary HW's of the past. We can only speculate.
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Yea, its a shame Tyson didnt have some serious talent to go up against when he was in his pomp. The only reason I think he was the real deal is: When I think of all the greatest HW boxers of the past, I can see them making mince meat of all of Tysons opponents. However, Tyson also tore through them like a superb HW fighter should. I'm not sure those cans could have been crushed any more efficiently then they we're.

Ultimately, he was never tested when he was at his peak. It's a very sad thing. I believe he would have been very impressive against any of the legendary HW's of the past. We can only speculate.
Yeah Tyson was designed to be a can wrecking machine. He'd pretty much have KOed all of the other fighters of his sort of style. David Haye, Joe Frazier, Rocky Marciano. He'd have buried all of them quickly (and Frazier is one of my favs all time). I don't see him having any answers for Ali, the Klitschkos, Lewis (at any time), Foreman etc.
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Old 09-20-2012, 12:56 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Yeah Tyson was designed to be a can wrecking machine. He'd pretty much have KOed all of the other fighters of his sort of style. David Haye, Joe Frazier, Rocky Marciano. He'd have buried all of them quickly (and Frazier is one of my favs all time). I don't see him having any answers for Ali, the Klitschkos, Lewis (at any time), Foreman etc.
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I'm amazed at those guys, from nowhere, they come in, criticize Dana for pretty much no reason whatsoever. he's the only one who made it happen in the first place, he modeled it from the very beginning into what it is right now, the UFC IS Dana white and Dana is the UFC.

He's proven he's a business genius, he does pretty much everything right for years and now a bunch of nobodies whose achievement are not even close to a tenth of what the dude has done and who pretend they know better.

Amazing

some of you guys should really go out and do a business of your own, understand how this shit works before going all nonsense on the forums.
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I actually think it's refreshing to have a president of a company who actual says how he feels, and doesn't say what the public wants to hear. All the while doing scumbag stuff on the hush hush ie, don't be like our government and most corporations.
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...The sport has never been better or bigger. Zuffa exploded globaly with the UFC, bought out Pride and Strikeforce. Now FX Primetime & Fuel TV--(Which rocks bigtime) UFC reloaded is great on Fuel TV. See fights I've missed. Smart move and most fans can see a lot more UFC. They are the staple of where things are and where they will should go in the MMA world. I can't see anybody other than Dana, Lorenzo & Joe Silva running the show for now. I remember saying "If it's not broken, don't mess with it". MMA has become serious mainstream. You can make a career of it and fighters are and have become celebrities. UFC should just keep blazing the huge path they have created...
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Yeah Tyson was designed to be a can wrecking machine. He'd pretty much have KOed all of the other fighters of his sort of style. David Haye, Joe Frazier, Rocky Marciano. He'd have buried all of them quickly (and Frazier is one of my favs all time). I don't see him having any answers for Ali, the Klitschkos, Lewis (at any time), Foreman etc.
I do...if his original trainer was around. Cus taught em everything. The whole "peek a boo" strategy and to instill fear into his opponents. That was to bolster his confidence.

It's only a matter of time before he gets in and hooks their body. He might not reach their face, but he'll give them internal bleeding. He lost too much time when he went away + loss his trainer and support group. Imagine all of the current champs without their trainers. They'd be at a disadvantage.

Lewis got flash KOed by Hasim so it can be done. Foreman would have been helluve entertaining as he could take a ton of punishment. Love the Foreman grill!
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I'm amazed at those guys, from nowhere, they come in, criticize Dana for pretty much no reason whatsoever. he's the only one who made it happen in the first place, he modeled it from the very beginning into what it is right now, the UFC IS Dana white and Dana is the UFC.

He's proven he's a business genius, he does pretty much everything right for years and now a bunch of nobodies whose achievement are not even close to a tenth of what the dude has done and who pretend they know better.

Amazing

some of you guys should really go out and do a business of your own, understand how this shit works before going all nonsense on the forums.
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I actually think it's refreshing to have a president of a company who actual says how he feels, and doesn't say what the public wants to hear. All the while doing scumbag stuff on the hush hush ie, don't be like our government and most corporations.
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...The sport has never been better or bigger. Zuffa exploded globaly with the UFC, bought out Pride and Strikeforce. Now FX Primetime & Fuel TV--(Which rocks bigtime) UFC reloaded is great on Fuel TV. See fights I've missed. Smart move and most fans can see a lot more UFC. They are the staple of where things are and where they will should go in the MMA world. I can't see anybody other than Dana, Lorenzo & Joe Silva running the show for now. I remember saying "If it's not broken, don't mess with it". MMA has become serious mainstream. You can make a career of it and fighters are and have become celebrities. UFC should just keep blazing the huge path they have created...
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I do...if his original trainer was around. Cus taught em everything. The whole "peek a boo" strategy and to instill fear into his opponents. That was to bolster his confidence.

It's only a matter of time before he gets in and hooks their body. He might not reach their face, but he'll give them internal bleeding. He lost too much time when he went away + loss his trainer and support group. Imagine all of the current champs without their trainers. They'd be at a disadvantage.

Lewis got flash KOed by Hasim so it can be done. Foreman would have been helluve entertaining as he could take a ton of punishment. Love the Foreman grill!
Generally he would have taken WAY too much punishment coming in. Tyson Vs Lewis at any stage would have 9/10 went the same. Tyson would be walking into straights and jabs, and maybe in his prime he wouldnt have been finished but he's still be beat up as badly. The Klitschkos these days don't make any mistakes that they used to, or any that Lewis made against Hasim etc. They are 100% focus to their range (which is why they get called boring). Tyson wouldnt even get into range with them as they would easily handle him at distance. That's why he struggled agaisnt Holyfield. Cus was good but it doesnt change the fact that Tyson was one dimentional. He had a lot of great aspects to his style, but adaptability was not one of them. One he's getting timed and caught with the jab straight combinations, he wouldnt have an answer for it. His arms were too short to even throw the overhand right. To me it's kind of an unfair comparrison. If I'm right, Tyson fighting in right now would only be a CW I believe.

George Forman would have been interesting because he had more power than Tyson and didn't use his reach to the ability he could have. 50/50 fight really.
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I'm amazed at those guys, from nowhere, they come in, criticize Dana for pretty much no reason whatsoever. he's the only one who made it happen in the first place, he modeled it from the very beginning into what it is right now, the UFC IS Dana white and Dana is the UFC.

He's proven he's a business genius, he does pretty much everything right for years and now a bunch of nobodies whose achievement are not even close to a tenth of what the dude has done and who pretend they know better.

Amazing

some of you guys should really go out and do a business of your own, understand how this shit works before going all nonsense on the forums.
Probably one of the best posts here! Deserve a rep.

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^All of this.



Generally he would have taken WAY too much punishment coming in. Tyson Vs Lewis at any stage would have 9/10 went the same. Tyson would be walking into straights and jabs, and maybe in his prime he wouldnt have been finished but he's still be beat up as badly. The Klitschkos these days don't make any mistakes that they used to, or any that Lewis made against Hasim etc. They are 100% focus to their range (which is why they get called boring). Tyson wouldnt even get into range with them as they would easily handle him at distance. That's why he struggled agaisnt Holyfield. Cus was good but it doesnt change the fact that Tyson was one dimentional. He had a lot of great aspects to his style, but adaptability was not one of them. One he's getting timed and caught with the jab straight combinations, he wouldnt have an answer for it. His arms were too short to even throw the overhand right. To me it's kind of an unfair comparrison. If I'm right, Tyson fighting in right now would only be a CW I believe.

George Forman would have been interesting because he had more power than Tyson and didn't use his reach to the ability he could have. 50/50 fight really.
Well, this is the fun part of the forum. I think Tyson would have bobbed and weaved into the clinch punishing the body definitely eating some jabs along the way, but he had one helluve defense and head movement. He slips punches so well that the time it takes to retract he's already within firing range. We can go on, but one thing is for sure. PPVs would have been off the charts. Tyson had star power.
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