Originally Posted by ClydebankBlitz
If George Foreman couldnt drop Ali, Tyson wouldnt stand a chance. Ali was a much different fighter after he won the world title than the one who stepped in against Frazier the first time.
And what reason do you have that Tyson wouldnt get stopped? Tyson pretty much never showed anyone to make anyone believe he was durable and could take a hard punch, and if anything he showed the opposite. If he faught a top level fighter, one of them was getting stopped.
Styles make fights. Like I said, the left hook was one of Tyson's best weapons. George Foreman hit harder, bu that doesn't have anything to do with Tyson hitting Ali with a left hook.
You have to keep that in your mind. Styles make fights in Boxing. Think about the wars Ali had with guys like Frasier and Ken Norton and such. Again, Ali was a sucker for a left hook. Mike Tyson had one of the best left hooks in Boxing. So right there is one reason why I think Tyson would knock Ali down.
And stop putting words in my mouth where in my post did I state that Tyson would not get stopped? Did i not specifically say Ali would win on points but Tyson would make Ali taste the canvas? Did you miss that part of my post?
Ali's jab was too good,he would have kept Mike Tyson at bay, but one thing you are forgetting or choosing to ignore is that a prime Mike Tyson slipped the jab better than anyone I've ever seen. It is well documented that Tyson had some of the best head movement in the history of boxing. Tyson was capable of slipping the jab and coming under neath with uppercuts, he could bull rush his way in without getting touched and land left hooks.
"Muhammad Ali had great footwork and could dance" That's true, but Ali did not dance for the entire 3 minutes of the round. He picked spots, He did that sometimes, he gets tired, he gets flat footed, he stands straight up. He's gotten caught before. Mike Tyson in his prime is very underrated. Mike Tyson from the time he went pro to 1988 was the real Mike Tyson (Best) in my opinion.
Ali was very easy to hit with the left hook, FACT.
-Joe Frazier vs Ali
If Mike Tyson lands that punch, Ali is in serious trouble.
-Chuck Wepner vs Ali (I believe)
Wepner dropped Ali with a body shot hook. Few men through a right hook to the body more ferociously than Tyson. If Wepner could knock Ali down with that punch what in the world makes you think Tyson wouldn't make Ali taste the canvas with his hooks???
Henry Cooper (BUM) vs Ali
If Henry Cooper could knock Ali down with a left hook what makes you think Tyson wouldn't be able to do it??
Here are a couple examples of how the fight could look like:
-Mike Tyson vs Tyrell Biggs
Now I know Tyrell Biggs is not even in the same breath as Ali but I am talking about styles here. Re watch the fight. Biggz attempted to dance around a lot and try to jab and keep Tyson at bay but it didn't work. Ali kept his right hand too low which would enable Tyson to time him and get with a hook.
-Mike Tyson vs Jame Tillis
Tillis also fought with an Ali type style. He had decent footwork, and liked to dance around the ring like a Muhammad Ali, but Tillis lacked Ali’s jab, athleticism, heart, or intelligence btw he was also trained by Angelo Dundee. Tillis went the distance against a prime Mike Tyson. And ton of boxing writers and fans scored the bout for James Tillis, and even more considered it a draw.
So in conclusion, I think Ali would win on points, but Tyson would definitely get Ali with a left hook and knock him down, and hopefully that makes you understand how.
Again I never said Tyson wouldn't get stopped.