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View Poll Results: What did you think of the flyweight title fight?
Great Fight 26 23.64%
It was good but not great. 33 30.00%
Indifferent, it was filler 21 19.09%
Wasn't very entertaining or exciting 23 20.91%
Complete Garbage 4 3.64%
I was busy watching Strawberry Shortcake reruns. 3 2.73%
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post #101 of 145 (permalink) Old 09-24-2012, 08:44 AM
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I thought it was amazing. Definiite FOTY contender for me. I am amazed people didn't enjoy it - I can only rationalize it as people who didn't enjoy it want to see big giants with no tekkers just flatten each other with big hits and have no appreciation for straight up amazing technique and footwork. Same as Diaz v Condit I loved it.


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I watched it, I have set through much worse and not complained, it was still better than most boxing matches. The small guys are not my favorite but its still a good fight. I get some people just don't like the small guys but I don't understand the booing of those two guys.
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I thought it was amazing. Definiite FOTY contender for me. I am amazed people didn't enjoy it - I can only rationalize it as people who didn't enjoy it want to see big giants with no tekkers just flatten each other with big hits and have no appreciation for straight up amazing technique and footwork. Same as Diaz v Condit I loved it.
Again, Benavidez has terrible technique and Johnson has amazing footwork but didn't throw a single combination.

Diaz and Condit are both twice the fighters these two guys are.
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post #104 of 145 (permalink) Old 09-24-2012, 10:45 AM
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The fighters definitely went out there and performed but my honest opinion is.. (and this is *my* opinion)... That division is about as exciting as watching windup toys. I want my UFC champion to be big enough to ride all the rides at an amusement park.
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There was a time people didn't want to see anything below 170, hell that is why BJ made his initial run at WW. BJ move back down to LW is what made the LW division relevant in peoples eyes. I believe Edgar vs Aldo will be the fight that makes the FW division relevant. I get that the general public isn't interested in the lighter weight classes, it honestly though has just as much to do IMO with the fact that nobody cares about the fighters in the divisions cause they don't know who they are and they don't know who they are and they can't fight anybody anyone cares about. Its the same problem that haunts organizations like Bellator.

I am surprised though that people on the board who obviously know the fighters and understand the level of skill involved didn't all enjoy the fight.
Honestly, people still don't really care about anything below 170. Penn was really the only exception for LW. People like Sanchez and Guida, but they aren't really money makers. Have you seen the buyrates lately? Rampage/Hamill with a SCRAPPED MAIN EVENT did way more than the PPV that had BOTH the Featherweight and Lightweight title fights (last October). Edgar/Bendo 2 was the lowest buyrate in years. Nobody really does care about anything below 170 to be honest.

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Honestly, people still don't really care about anything below 170. Penn was really the only exception for LW. People like Sanchez and Guida, but they aren't really money makers. Have you seen the buyrates lately? Rampage/Hamill with a SCRAPPED MAIN EVENT did way more than the PPV that had BOTH the Featherweight and Lightweight title fights (last October). Edgar/Bendo 2 was the lowest buyrate in years. Nobody really does care about anything below 170 to be honest.
Ah, I cant agree with that. In my opinion the lightweight division is probably one of the most popular divisions.
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I thought it was amazing. Definiite FOTY contender for me. I am amazed people didn't enjoy it - I can only rationalize it as people who didn't enjoy it want to see big giants with no tekkers just flatten each other with big hits and have no appreciation for straight up amazing technique and footwork. Same as Diaz v Condit I loved it.
Diaz and Condit had MUCH less technique and footwork. It was Condit running backwards and throwing small attacks with weak intentions, and Diaz using know knowledge and marching forward as Condit easily avoided it.

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Ah, I cant agree with that. In my opinion the lightweight division is probably one of the most popular divisions.
Agreed. You have Diaz, who has a massive following. You have Bendo with a decent amount of fans, and everyone who isnt a fan is probably an Edgar fan. You've got Cerrone who is an animal, Gray Maynard who people would pay to see, Jim Miller is a solid mid carder. The LW division is by far the most popular, it just doesnt have a dominant figurehead to command it. Bendo is a very beatable opponent, while otherwise you have guys like Cruz, Aldo, GSP, Silva, Jones and JDS, all of which really are at the top of the pile.

If Diaz wins the LW title, I have a feeling that we will see it completley blow up as he too is beatable but almost guarentees a FOTN every time he steps out.

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Ah, I cant agree with that. In my opinion the lightweight division is probably one of the most popular divisions.
145 and 135 are starting to come around with Faber being so popular, Edgar moving down, people like Mendes and KZ making names for themselves and Aldo and Cruz proving to be legitimate champions.


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I stopped caring about it once it became apparent Benavidez wasn't going to KO Johnson.. I'll watch flyweights, and generally enjoy the lighter weight-classes, but I really don't like guys like Cruz and Johnson.

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I'm not sure if its lack of familiarity or that I just enjoy the heavier weight classes more but I don't really enjoy the lower weight classes at all. Don't get me wrong, these guys obviously have a ton of skills and a lot of heart but it just doesn't do it for me.

I'll come off sounding hypocritical because I love to watch technical battles that go back and forth but I just don't get that excitement level with the small guys that I do when two 205lb dudes are swinging for the fences, going after subs and leaving it all out there. I know lots of people will disagree with me but that's just the feeling I get when they fight. For me HW, LHW, MW and WW are really the only weight classes that I really consider draws, anything else to me at this point are fillers. I wouldn't be sinking my money into LW, BW, FW Pay per view cards that are headlined by those weight classes. I know that sounds bad but it is what it is, either you're excited by it or you're not. I'm not.

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