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post #41 of 82 (permalink) Old 09-23-2012, 06:21 PM
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I have always been a big supporter of Bisping and have been calling him the most underrated MW for some time now. After Bisping beat Sonnen (imo) and now beat Stann, people are finally giving him his due. He has been working hard and putting on good fights for years asking for a title shot, and he never gets any gift shots like some other fighters have. Having said that, nobody really deserves a title shot after one win regardless of circumstance (even though I believe he won the Sonnen fight). Although I would love to see Bisping get a shot as a fan, he would obviously get murdered by Anderson Silva.

The way I see it, the UFC should wait and see how the Weidman-Boetsch and Belcher-Okami fights play out. If Belcher wins, I believe he deserves a title shot as he is a great fighter and currently the most underrated MW on these forums. If Okami wins, then it's a moot point.
If Weidman wins, I would like to see him fight Bisping for a clear #1 contender. If Boetsch wins, then neither deserve a shot and maybe he could fight Bisping as well.

Bottom line is, we just have to wait a bit for things to clear up because there's way too many question marks. To add to the confusion there is also the possibility of a GSP superfight if he beats Condit.
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Just give it to him and get it over with already. Who deserves it could be debated forever, bisping has been hanging around waiting as long as anyone.
I dont think he has a 1/100 chance of winning but I wouldn't mind seeing the fight.
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Give it to Bisping IMO.

Bisping has been with the UFC for 6 years, has a lot of history, has been great for the sport in general, he's a company man who steps up whenever required, and I say not only give it to him based on there's not many challengers/he just got a win, but also because damn - give the guy a shot, he's wanted it for a long time and I think he deserves one after all he's put into the sport trying to get there.
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Give it to Bisping IMO.

Bisping has been with the UFC for 6 years, has a lot of history, has been great for the sport in general, he's a company man who steps up whenever required, and I say not only give it to him based on there's not many challengers/he just got a win, but also because damn - give the guy a shot, he's wanted it for a long time and I think he deserves one after all he's put into the sport trying to get there.
I'm sure several fighters have wanted it for a long time, how does that warrant a title shot?

A 1 one fight winning streak? lmao. I guess the UFC really is jumping the shark. I do not honestly see why on earth people want to see Silva vs. Bisping unless you're a massive Bisping hater, Anderson would cream him within 2, with ease.

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I don't agree with this mentality that Bisping ought to get a title shot as he's a company man who steps up. Being a company man doesn't necessarily make you deserving of facing the champion. We can't simply ignore that Mike doesn't have a single win over a top MW fighter. I've no real issue with seeing him fight for the title, but let's not fool ourselves - Bisping getting a title shot would not be the result of his successfully fighting his way through an entire division.

That said, not every number one contender in history has earned his shot. Dan Hardy, Thales Leites, and many more. Given that reality, go ahead and give Bisping his chance.
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I don't agree with this mentality that Bisping ought to get a title shot as he's a company man who steps up. Being a company man doesn't necessarily make you deserving of facing the champion. We can't simply ignore that Mike doesn't have a single win over a top MW fighter. I've no real issue with seeing him fight for the title, but let's not fool ourselves - Bisping getting a title shot would not be the result of his successfully fighting his way through an entire division.

That said, not every number one contender in history has earned his shot. Dan Hardy, Thales Leites, and many more. Given that reality, go ahead and give Bisping his chance.
The difference between the Hardy/Leites situations and this one is there was literally no one else for GSP and Anderson to fight.

Currently, both Weidman and Boestch are more deserving than Bisping, who finally proved his worth by beating a top ten guy but still doesn't have anything to offer Anderson, neither does Boestch to be honest, but Weidman at least has a ground game that could give Anderson some fits.

This is not a Hardy/Leites/Cote/Maia situation, this is a 'this guy can make us more money' situation and with the UFC preaching it's the fastest growing sport in the world it's kind of hypocritical...

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I don't agree with this mentality that Bisping ought to get a title shot as he's a company man who steps up. Being a company man doesn't necessarily make you deserving of facing the champion. We can't simply ignore that Mike doesn't have a single win over a top MW fighter. I've no real issue with seeing him fight for the title, but let's not fool ourselves - Bisping getting a title shot would not be the result of his successfully fighting his way through an entire division.

That said, not every number one contender in history has earned his shot. Dan Hardy, Thales Leites, and many more. Given that reality, go ahead and give Bisping his chance.
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I'm sure several fighters have wanted it for a long time, how does that warrant a title shot?

A 1 one fight winning streak? lmao. I guess the UFC really is jumping the shark. I do not honestly see why on earth people want to see Silva vs. Bisping unless you're a massive Bisping hater, Anderson would cream him within 2, with ease.
Bisping was in talks to get a title shot before this fight and since he won he's in it even more.

I don't agree with giving people a title shot after 1 win either but Bisping has been asking for it for a long time and since he's in the talk about a title shot anyway (even Dana said it's a possibility), I'd say just give it to him, let him have his shot, 6 years/always great for the company and he's in the mix - just give it to him.

That's my opinion on it.
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I don't know that 'asking for a title shot for a long time' is reason enough, lol. As I said, I have no issue with giving Bisping the title match, but we can't delude ourselves into believing that he deserves it. It would be a business move and nothing more.

The other way of thinking is that with Chael and possibly Vitor gone from MW, Mikey just shot up a few notches. Stann dubbed him the second or third best middleweight in the UFC, and there was a time where this would have been laughable. But with Sonnen and Vitor now gone, Bisping might just have a claim by default.
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Is Vitor coming back to 185?

I would really like to see Bisping/Belcher which would be a great fight to go with Weidman/Boestch and they could settle that out by having the winners fight around the same time Anderson/GSP would fight if they do but Belcher's fighting Okami, hell I'd like to see Bisping/Okami or Bisping/Belfort. I don't really think Vitor should lose his position at 185 just because he lost to the 205 lb Champ.

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Bisping should fight again, I say put him on the card with Weidman Boetsch it is a quick turn around but if one of them get injured it gives them a fill in for a #1 contenders bout.
I say give him a spot against Belcher and bump Okami to a different card. Hell keep Okami on stand by cause with 6MW's on the card you know somebody is getting injured.




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