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Old 09-23-2012, 07:52 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Just give it to him and get it over with already. Who deserves it could be debated forever, bisping has been hanging around waiting as long as anyone.
I dont think he has a 1/100 chance of winning but I wouldn't mind seeing the fight.
pretty much my feelings on the situation the more I think about it.

He doesn't "deserve" it, in the sense that he lost his 4 biggest fights - all which would have likely put him as #1 contenter if he won.

However it's either Bisping, or somebody Silva has already beat, or somebody lower on the ladder than Bisping.

The division is a trainwreck at the top, just like WW and LHW. Nobody will beat GSP, Silva or JBJ. Those 3 guys are superstars of their division, far superior than their competetion.
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Old 09-23-2012, 07:54 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I don't know that 'asking for a title shot for a long time' is reason enough, lol. As I said, I have no issue with giving Bisping the title match, but we can't delude ourselves into believing that he deserves it. It would be a business move and nothing more.

The other way of thinking is that with Chael and possibly Vitor gone from MW, Mikey just shot up a few notches. Stann dubbed him the second or third best middleweight in the UFC, and there was a time where this would have been laughable. But with Sonnen and Vitor now gone, Bisping might just have a claim by default.
Bisping is 6-1 in his last 7, and he took his fight with Sonnen on short notice and did well during the fight. Bisping is up at the top of the heap right now with Chris/Tim, of which those two are busy fighting each other in December.

If you combine that information with the fact that Bisping has been wanting/hungry for it for a long time and that he's done a lot of good for the UFC and stepped in on very short notice to fight Sonnen (his only loss in 7 fights), he should get the next title shot considering Silva is free to accept another title fight in October.

All things align for a Bisping title shot. I realize you're not necessarily disagreeing with me, just explaining my point more in detail.
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Old 09-23-2012, 07:59 PM   #53 (permalink)

 
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Weidman/Boetcsh are more deserving, I would have not issue with Bisping stepping in if one of them got hurt but short notice or not he lost to Sonnen. I could forgive that had he looked super impressive last night but the truth is that I for one was underwhelmed with his performance. I thought he looked better losing to Sonnen than he did beating Stann.
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Old 09-23-2012, 08:30 PM   #54 (permalink)
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I don't agree with this mentality that Bisping ought to get a title shot as he's a company man who steps up. Being a company man doesn't necessarily make you deserving of facing the champion. We can't simply ignore that Mike doesn't have a single win over a top MW fighter. I've no real issue with seeing him fight for the title, but let's not fool ourselves - Bisping getting a title shot would not be the result of his successfully fighting his way through an entire division.

That said, not every number one contender in history has earned his shot. Dan Hardy, Thales Leites, and many more. Given that reality, go ahead and give Bisping his chance.
I fully agree with this, and it's also the reason why I feel MMA isn't quite a "truly legitimate sport" - the matchups are (too often) more about <popularity/draw/$> than <rankings/"who has beaten the best to earn it"> kinda thing.

Given the history of the UFC's matchups for title fights, though, ...whatever, they can do what they want.

[Edit] I fully agree with Toxic's post above, too.
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Old 09-23-2012, 08:46 PM   #55 (permalink)
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I HATE that Weidman is fighting Tim. I said it at the time, it's just an easy win for Weidman to give him a title shot. If they had waited, we could have Bisping and Weidman fighting in December for the #1 contendership.

As it stands, as much as I hate to say it, it should probably be Weidman/Tim winner gets the title shot and Bisping fights Belcher or Belfort.
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:35 PM   #56 (permalink)
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The UFC is dying to give Bisping a title shot, and they have been for ages, it's hard to imagine they won't do it now they have the chance.

The only thing that stands in his way is GSP. If the superfight is ever going to happen, it has to be after GSP beats Condit, the clock is running out on Silva. If GSP wins, and then fights Silva, Bisping might have to fight once more before a crack at Silva, otherwise, they will give it to him.

Even putting marketing/UK accessibility aside, you might as well give it to Bisping. Belcher and Wideman are the only other guys who can even talk title shot with a straight face, and they will still be around after Silva vaporizes Bisping.
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Silva should be fighting GSP next, enough with these filler fights. They're milking it with this crap like Bonnar vs Silva or Bisping next in line if that's the case.

The UFC needs to put on legit mega fights, that's what the fans that made them rich want to see.
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Silva should be fighting GSP next, enough with these filler fights. They're milking it with this crap like Bonnar vs Silva or Bisping next in line if that's the case.

The UFC needs to put on legit mega fights, that's what the fans that made them rich want to see.
I agree that it is time for the mega fight but putting on mega fights all over the place isnt as great for business as it seems. They still want their dominant champs to have that invincible aura and they won't have that with constant mega fights.


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Old 09-24-2012, 01:33 PM   #59 (permalink)
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I agree that it is time for the mega fight but putting on mega fights all over the place isnt as great for business as it seems. They still want their dominant champs to have that invincible aura and they won't have that with constant mega fights.


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That's just it though, mostly what we've been getting is filler. I'm not saying every fight has to be a mega fight but the quality can and should be a lot better bang for the buck more consistently, especially PPV's.
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That's just it though, mostly what we've been getting is filler. I'm not saying every fight has to be a mega fight but the quality can and should be a lot better bang for the buck more consistently, especially PPV's.
I wouldn't consider everything mostly filler. JBJ/Vitor happened because of injuries so it was either this fight or JBJ sits out. Edgar/Bendo wasn't filler. JDS/Mir wasn't and neither will the Cain rematch. GSP is coming back and fighting Condit right off of the bat. Joe B/Mighty Mouse was the end of a small tournament. We have been getting a lot of contender matchups.

We havent been getting mostly filler at all.


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