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Old 09-24-2012, 08:40 PM   #61 (permalink)
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No... it's not even remotely the same as that.
In which way? It's disliking a guy for his personal life.

The majority of people would see cheating as worse than drunk driving anyways.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:41 PM   #62 (permalink)
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I mean sure, he's a dick in an interview, then that's understandable. But the DUI is so far out of MMA. It's like hating a fighter for cheating on their girlfriend.
Pretty much, the Jones hate is so unwarranted it's not even funny.

I'll admit his antics makes for good entertainment however.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:46 PM   #63 (permalink)
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In which way? It's disliking a guy for his personal life.

The majority of people would see cheating as worse than drunk driving anyways.
By your logic, I should heap praise on Michael Vick for being such a tremendous football player, despite the fact that he hangs and drowns dogs in his spare time. And don't forget Chris Benoit and OJ Simpson, who murdered their families. They were so good at their respective crafts that I can overlook that minor detail. Saying 'I have less respect than others for Jon Jones the man' isn't the same as saying 'I have no respect for Jon Jones the fighter'. It's really not complicated.

And I disagree with your latter statement, though I'd not be surprised if a fair few did agree with you. Both are pretty sorry acts, but there's a difference between cheating on your spouse and putting yourself in a position to commit manslaughter. That there's even a dispute as to which is worse is a sorry sign of the times.
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Pretty much, the Jones hate is so unwarranted it's not even funny.

I'll admit his antics makes for good entertainment however.
The DUI is generally not the reason. I was on the hate bandwagon but when I rationalised it as Jones is a martial artist, not a fighter, it made his decision not to take the fight understandable. I think he's actually refined while a lot see him as arrogant. I'm 20, and if I somehow stop getting pissed long enough to become the UFC champion in the next 4 years, best believe I'm going to be full of my own shit haha
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By your logic, I should heap praise on Michael Vick for being such a tremendous football player, despite the fact that he hangs and drowns dogs in his spare time. And don't forget Chris Benoit and OJ Simpson, who murdered their families. They were so good at their respective crafts that I can overlook that minor detail. Saying 'I have less respect than others for Jon Jones the man' isn't the same as saying 'I have no respect for Jon Jones the fighter'. It's really not complicated.

And I disagree with your latter statement, though I'd not be surprised if a fair few did agree with you. Both are pretty sorry acts, but there's a difference between cheating on your spouse and putting yourself in a position to commit manslaughter. That there's even a dispute as to which is worse is a sorry sign of the times.
The only people Jones has murdered was in the ring.
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By your logic, I should heap praise on Michael Vick for being such a tremendous football player, despite the fact that he hangs and drowns dogs in his spare time. And don't forget Chris Benoit and OJ Simpson, who murdered their families. They were so good at their respective crafts that I can overlook that minor detail. Saying 'I have less respect than others for Jon Jones the man' isn't the same as saying 'I have no respect for Jon Jones the fighter'. It's really not complicated.

And I disagree with your latter statement, though I'd not be surprised if a fair few did agree with you. Both are pretty sorry acts, but there's a difference between cheating on your spouse and putting yourself in a position to commit manslaughter. That there's even a dispute as to which is worse is a sorry sign of the times.
Chris Benoint is one of the greatest pro wrestlers of all time.

And I know LOADS of people who drink drive. It's ridiculous to me but still, they'd probably say cheating is horrible but still D&D. I was walking home once and remember looking at my feet as I could barley walk straight. I looked around and everything was blurry as fuk. I remember saying to myself (probably out loud lol_) "How the hell do people drive when they are in the same state as I am now?". Not something I'm cool with, but JJ getting pissed and hitting a telephone pole isnt exactly a reason for me to call for him to be hung drawn and quartered.
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Where did I call for him to be hung? I even said I don't hate Jon Jones. Not even close. I think less of him for drinking and driving, and I'm entitled to that. I don't hate him. I just don't have full respect for him personally. As a fighter, however, he's fantastic and I have nothing but praise for his fighting abilities.

And agreed - Chris Benoit was one of the greatest to ever lace up a pair of boots. I have nothing but respect for Chris Benoit the wrestler. That said, I don't know that I could say the same of the Chris Benoit who strangled his own son.

To each his own.
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Jon Jones kicks ass but praises god, hypocritically smashes cars, and pussied out of a fight with a fat middleweight. He also beat everyone LHW fighter, no matter who that is, because he cleaned out the division. Love him inside the ering, kinda a turd outside.

Bendo: where is this hate? I have't seen it. He took some flack for being preachy post fight and a lot of people are upset with the judges but I haven't seen anyone ripping into Bendo like some were with Jones.

And again, whi hates Mighty Mouse? Most people just don't care about the division and would not have cared who won.

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Hughes was/is still hated by many people for this and other reasons, what are you talking about? Hughes was once THE most hated MMA fighter out there, even when he was a champion.
I still hate Hughes. Hated him ever since he acted like a 12 year old bully on his TUF season.


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In which way? It's disliking a guy for his personal life.

The majority of people would see cheating as worse than drunk driving anyways.

I dont think there is anything wrong with disliking a fighter for his personal life. Matt Hughes is a bully, a racist, and jesus freak. Just a few of the reasons I always hoped he lost in the ring.

Sonnen is a dirt bag criminal who only cares about himself and selling a bullshit brand that is himself. Sonnen has the added bonus of being boring as all hell in the ring. So I double hate him.
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Comparing Anderson Silva, Jon Jones and GSP.. honestly i think GSP is the nicest guy from those three, he is seemingly the least offesnive and egotistical.

Saying that i'm a big fan of all three but i can understand why some people don't like them.. Anderson Silva is almost perfect, he rarely says anything wrong although has shown some unprofessionalism when facing Brazilian opponents, seemingly not wanting to stop them.

Jon Jones is cocky, he would ofcourse say he's just confident but he is a bit cocky and that for me is fine, afterall he is possibly the most dangerous man on the planet, but some people are going to hate.

GSP, my overriding thoughts on GSP is watching the countdown shows where the guy almost has nervous breakdowns before hsi fights, disects his own game into a pile of shit and generally worries himself to death - yet despite this is one of the best in the game. We're all different but i must admit i like that this guy has a real ego, he is nervous he is worried, like a normal person etc yet he is still the world champion.

You do probably have some factors like racism playing into the dilike for AS and JJ, let's be frank this is an American sport and some of the spectators/fans are going to be racist sadly. No doubt Griffin/Franklin/Hughes win extra points with the likes of Oldfan, Sideways and Rusty etc.
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