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Old 09-26-2012, 11:09 AM   #11 (permalink)
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There are a boat load of MMA fans who are criticizing the quality of fights and the UFC for not putting on fights we should be seeing, even if we have to wait longer to see them. This fight for Silva is fluff, make no mistake about it.

Learn how to differentiate others opinions instead of being a fan boy and dropping the obligatory one liner in your posts because you are still in denial, just some advice.
Would you rather they have cancelled a second card? People seem to forget that both the main event and co-main event fell through within hours of one another. That will ravage even the most interesting of cards. Also, it's not as though UFC had been planning on having Bonnar vs. Silva. It's a replacement fight that will at least appease the blood thirsty masses.

You're here acting as though Silva vs. Bonnar had been in the works all along. It's a replacement fight. Big difference. This is only further proof that the UFC will never be able to please everyone. Cancel a card, and the fans will whine. Save a card, and the fans will still whine. Frankly the UFC shouldn't be arsed with people who simply exist to criticize a product they could in no way run better.
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:33 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Would you rather they have cancelled a second card? People seem to forget that both the main event and co-main event fell through within hours of one another. That will ravage even the most interesting of cards. Also, it's not as though UFC had been planning on having Bonnar vs. Silva. It's a replacement fight that will at least appease the blood thirsty masses.

You're here acting as though Silva vs. Bonnar had been in the works all along. It's a replacement fight. Big difference. This is only further proof that the UFC will never be able to please everyone. Cancel a card, and the fans will whine. Save a card, and the fans will still whine. Frankly the UFC shouldn't be arsed with people who simply exist to criticize a product they could in no way run better.
Let me guess, you agree with Dana that if you don't like the new weight class (or in other words the shit product he's providing) he does'nt need the MMA fans that made him rich.

Smart business move Dana. What's in store next for the UFC, midget wrestling?
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Atleast we get to see the best fighter in the world fight
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Imagine the explosion that will happen on this forum when Stephan Bonnar wins. Some will be dumbfounded, some will call it a fluke, and others will say Anderson Silva is overrated.

I, on the other hand, will say Stephan Bonnar is just that damn good! Calling it right here folks!
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Old 09-26-2012, 12:07 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Imagine the explosion that will happen on this forum when Stephan Bonnar wins. Some will be dumbfounded, some will call it a fluke, and others will say Anderson Silva is overrated.

I, on the other hand, will say Stephan Bonnar is just that damn good! Calling it right here folks!
LOL, can I bet all my credits on this?
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Old 09-26-2012, 12:18 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Let me guess, you agree with Dana that if you don't like the new weight class (or in other words the shit product he's providing) he does'nt need the MMA fans that made him rich.

Smart business move Dana. What's in store next for the UFC, midget wrestling?
No. I think that introducing flyweight was a stupid move.

The fact is, Silva vs. Bonnar is likely to be a fun fight that people will pay for. Again, it was either that or cancelling yet another event. You offer plenty of criticisms, but never any actual ideas. Sure, the UFC could cut back on events and give us 'legitimate fights'. But that simply wasn't a factor here, as the initial card was quite good. When a legitimate main and co-main fall through last minute, options can be scarce. This card, while not what it was, is far from a poor substitute.
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This fight will be damn entertaining and gives the 185 division a bit more time to develop a clear contender. It is win/win unless your glass just has to be half empty...
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No. I think that introducing flyweight was a stupid move.

The fact is, Silva vs. Bonnar is likely to be a fun fight that people will pay for. Again, it was either that or cancelling yet another event. You offer plenty of criticisms, but never any actual ideas. Sure, the UFC could cut back on events and give us 'legitimate fights'. But that simply wasn't a factor here, as the initial card was quite good. When a legitimate main and co-main fall through last minute, options can be scarce. This card, while not what it was, is far from a poor substitute.
And this right here is exactly the root of the problem. Settling.

Expecting MMA fans to dish out their hard earned money for yet another watered down event only to watch Silva beat the shit out of another can with a bunch of other fights that also suck isn't fun.

The UFC should absolutely cut down the number of events if they do not have enough resources to ensure their paying customers will get top shelf fights. And not just one or maybe two good fights per event mind you, all of the fights.

Quality over quantity.

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And this right here is exactly the root of the problem. Settling.

Expecting MMA fans to dish out their hard earned money for yet another watered down event only to watch Silva beat the shit out of another can with a bunch of other fights that also suck isn't fun.

The UFC should absolutely cut down the number of events if they do not have enough resources to ensure their paying customers will get top shelf fights. And not just one or maybe two good fights per event mind you, all of the fights.

Quality over quantity.
BOOM,

I get what you are saying and to some point I agree with you. I'd love to see the UFC in a model where the majority of their fights were on free TV with some pinnacle cards available via PPV.

With the number of divisions they've added and trying to keep the roster current by giving prospects their shots... That's a lot of fights to have. They also have to saturate the market to drown out any potential competitiors.

Plus, injuries are just playing hell with multiple divisions right now.

I much prefer quality over quantity but honestly we don't have to buy what we don't want. Also, big names and sensible matchups don't always make for the best fights.
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:36 PM   #20 (permalink)
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And this right here is exactly the root of the problem. Settling.

Expecting MMA fans to dish out their hard earned money for yet another watered down event only to watch Silva beat the shit out of another can with a bunch of other fights that also suck isn't fun.

The UFC should absolutely cut down the number of events if they do not have enough resources to ensure their paying customers will get top shelf fights. And not just one or maybe two good fights per event mind you, all of the fights.

Quality over quantity.
If you look at the original card for UFC 153, it can hardly be deemed as having 'one or two good fights'. The fact remains, and you're blatantly ignoring this, that losing a main event and a co-main event is going to leave even the most stacked of cards feeling like something less.

UFC 153 was hardly watered down. It was loaded with great bouts. I understand that you believe every match on the card should feature main event talent, but then we'd be privy to all of 3 or 4 PPVs a year, which would still cause moaning.

Jose Aldo vs. Frankie Edgar
Glover Teixeira vs. Rampage Jackson
Jon Fitch vs Erick Silva
Phil Davis vs Wagner Prado
Demian Maia vs Rick Story

You'd call that a watered down card? The fact of the matter is that UFC was treating us to a very good to great card which then lost its main event and co-main events within hours of one another. You offer the idea that fewer events means consistently stacked cards, and whilst I don't disagree with you, what happens when injuries plague those cards? Even with fewer cards, the UFC would still be forced to scramble if and when a fighter was forced to withdraw shortly before a fight.

Again, you've offered nothing in terms of ideas on how to better fill last minute openings or book replacement bouts. I'm all ears if and when you have something to offer in that regard. Until then, you're simply acting as though UFC 153 suffered from the same issues as UFC 151, when that's not at all the case.
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