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Old 09-27-2012, 03:01 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Wow...



Since you are talking about wrestling and striking in the same sentence you say that Weidman schooled him i can only assume that you are talking about MMA. Furthermore i never imagined that you would be using a different sport to use proof as to why someone would school Jones in MMA.

Im guessing you are talking about wrestling but that just further shows me that you are messed up in the head thinking that means anything at this point. And please i would like to see the footage of this "match" they both had. Cant you just post it since you keep talking about it??

You are the one that talked about me copy and pasting you retard. I was kidding when i said you have some marbles loose. But now im thinking i wasnt far off.

Lol i have marbles loose yah you're right the one armed Vitor that fought Jones is def better then the Vitor from UFC 12,it's not my fault that you assumed that Weidman a MW fought Jones the LHW Champ in an MMA match obviously i meant wrestling. Get over it you're a nut hugger Jones walks around 240 fights a bunch of MW's out of prime LHW's yet i would put my money on Mir beating him.
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:09 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Lol i have marbles loose yah you're right the one armed Vitor that fought Jones is def better then the Vitor from UFC 12,it's not my fault that you assumed that Weidman a MW fought Jones the LHW Champ in an MMA match obviously i meant wrestling. Get over it you're a nut hugger Jones walks around 240 fights a bunch of MW's out of prime LHW's yet i would put my money on Mir beating him.
Its obvious you have marbles loose.

I assumed that you ment MMA because i was giving you the benifit of the doubt that you are not so freaking stupid that you would use a wrestling match to support your statement as to why Jones reign is overrated and who he would lose to. But obviously you are...

Oh yeah..

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Weidman schooled Jones so would Cormier,Cain,JDS, he keeps beating a bunch of out of prime fighters get over it.
Yeah you are so OBVIOUSLY talking about Weidman schooling Jones in a wrestling match BUT in the same sentence talking about JDS,Cain beating him in an MMA match.



Jones fought 1 middleweight and now he is fighting a bunch of middleweights. Lmao..

Btw i said that Vitor from UFC 12 is less skilled then the Vitor of today. And the Vitor of Today is no less hungry then the Vitor of UFC 12. You obviously dont understand how much MMA has evolved.


And if your brain wasnt damaged you would realize that im the last person to call a Jones nut hugger in this whole forum.


BTW you still havent posted the footage of Jones vs Weidman
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Its obvious you have marbles loose.

I assumed that you ment MMA because i was giving you the benifit of the doubt that you are not so freaking stupid that you would use a wrestling match to support your statement as to why Jones reign is overrated and who he would lose to. But obviously you are...

Oh yeah..



Yeah you are so OBVIOUSLY talking about Weidman schooling Jones in a wrestling match BUT in the same sentence talking about JDS,Cain beating him in an MMA match.



Jones fought 1 middleweight and now he is fighting a bunch of middleweights. Lmao..

Btw i said that Vitor from UFC 12 is less skilled then the Vitor of today. And the Vitor of Today is no less hungry then the Vitor of UFC 12. You obviously dont understand how much MMA has evolved.


And if your brain wasnt damaged you would realize that im the last person to call a Jones nut hugger in this whole forum.


BTW you still havent posted the footage of Jones vs Weidman
Their is no footage only people who know something about MMA know the truth

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I assumed that you ment MMA because i was giving you the benifit of the doubt that you are not so freaking stupid that you would use a wrestling match to support your statement as to why Jones reign is overrated and who he would lose to. But obviously you are...
His reign is overrated because he keeps beating a bunch of out of prime fighters and one good wrestler with decent striking who he couldn't finish.I don't need the benefit of the doubt from a who can't comprehend that if a MW can school Jones then obviously a wrestler with equal skill like Cormier would also in an MMA match.

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Btw i said that Vitor from UFC 12 is less skilled then the Vitor of today. And the Vitor of Today is no less hungry then the Vitor of UFC 12. You obviously dont understand how much MMA has evolved.
I never said Vitor from UFC 12 has more skill then Vitor of today i simply stated that Vitor from UFC 12 would of been a better fight then one armed Vitor you again assumed it like an idiot.

And i'm joking about you beating a Jones nut hugger you're just to dumb to realize k good night
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Their is no footage moron only people who know something about MMA know the truth



His reign is overrated because he keeps beating a bunch of out of prime fighters and one good wrestler with decent striking who he couldn't finish.I don't need the benefit of the doubt from a moron who can't comprehend that if a MW can school Jones then obviously a wrestler with equal skill like Cormier would also in an MMA match.


I never said Vitor from UFC 12 has more skill then Vitor of today i simply stated that Vitor from UFC 12 would of been a better fight then one armed Vitor you again assumed it like an idiot.

And i'm joking about you beating a Jones nut hugger you're just to dumb to realize k good night
Actually you said that Vitor of ufc 12,13 was more hungry then the Vitor of today. And you also called him stronger.

I NEVER commented on Vitor fighting with one arm. You are the one that is assuming. Im just saying that the Vitor of today is more skilled then the Vitor of UFC 12. Im not even talking about his broken hand. So its funny how you are saying i am the one assuming. When YOU are actually the one assuming.

Oh so wait you keep bringing up a WRESTLING match you have NEVER SEEN as an example of Jones reign being overrated.

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Holy crap man.

You made my night with your ridiculous statements.

Have a good night man.. you clearly NEED a good nights rest.
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His reign is overrated because he keeps beating a bunch of out of prime fighters and one good wrestler with decent striking who he couldn't finish.I don't need the benefit of the doubt from a moron who can't comprehend that if a MW can school Jones then obviously a wrestler with equal skill like Cormier would also in an MMA match.


I never said Vitor from UFC 12 has more skill then Vitor of today i simply stated that Vitor from UFC 12 would of been a better fight then one armed Vitor you again assumed it like an idiot.

And i'm joking about you beating a Jones nut hugger you're just to dumb to realize k good night
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LOLWUT? Stop acting like you have some inside information or whatever. You said Weidman schooled Jones in wrestling, well since you mentioned it, give proof of it. What I think is, you made that statement thinking you were right, then proceeded to wiki it to show proof, but couldn't find any. Were the people you were thinking about Phil Davis and Ryan Bader? Yes Chris Weidman beat them both, but they ain't Jon Jones. Get your facts right and stop acting like you are above what you are.

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Weidman didn't beat Jones in a wrestling match.

Obviously Cormier and Cain would school Jones in a wrestling match. Jones is a LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT while Cormier and Cain are HEAVYWEIGHTS. Furthermore, try naming more than 3 MMA fighters who can win against Cormier or Cain in a wrestling match ( This ain't even Ultimate Wrestling Championships anyway...it is MMA ). I bet even your beloved Fedor can't do it.

JDS would beat Jones in a wrestling match? If Jones bulks up I assure you he is not gonna lose to JDS in a wrestling match.

Giving you the benefit of the doubt, I assume you are talking about MMA fights instead of wrestling matches. Cormier, Cain, and JDS at their current weight against the light heavyweight Jon Jones? They would most probably win. Against a bulked up Jon Jones? I'm not so sure there. You can argue however you want that Cormier, Cain, or JDS would win against a heavyweight Jones, but I can argue the opposite too. You can't be so sure until the fight itself happens.

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Emelianenko's career is filled with fighting HW's not a bunch of out of prime LHW's and one armed MW's don't compare the goat to Jones.
Obviously Fedor is gonna fight heavyweights...HE IS A HEAVYWEIGHT, HELLO? You don't argue that Jones' career is better than Anderson Silva's just because Jones is fighting light heavyweights while Silva is dominating uh......mere middleweights?

Jon Jones' career is filled with fighting out of prime LHWs? Lets run through his title reign, alright?

1st fighter - Shogun Rua. Let us be reminded that Rua was only 29 years old when he fought Jones. He was arguably on a four fight winning streak when he fought Jones ( since most feel he won the 1st fight against Machida ). You may be true here though, Rua's career spanned 9 years before he fought Jones. Underwent a surgery before the fight with Jones. However, he was the title holder at that point and the best that UFC had to offer. Shogun is still ranked the world's number 4 light heavyweight on most sites today.

2nd fighter - Rampage. Former light heavyweight champion. This guy was coming off wins over Machida and Hamill. Hamill might not be the one of the top, but Rampage put on a clinic against Hamill. He was also a top 5 light heavyweight when he fought Jones.

3rd fighter - Machida. Former light heavyweight champion. You can argue that he didn't deserve the shot against Jones, but arguing that he isn't one of the best light heavyweights in the world...? He was 17-2 going into the fight, and with his elusive style, he hardly received any damage throughout his career. You call him 1 dimensional with good takedown defense. Doesn't that make him an excellent striker that has excellent defensive wrestling? That ain't called one dimensional to me. Furthermore he has a black belt in BJJ. Granted he doesn't use it much in his fights, but we don't know the true extent of his BJJ skills since nobody has been able to keep him down for long ( Which may also act as proof of his BJJ, his ability to get back to his feet ). Fedor's best wins - Big Nog and Crocop. If Machida is one dimensional, so are they.

4th fighter - Rashad Evans. Former light heavyweight champion. Ranked number 2 when he fought Jones. 17-1-1 going into the fight. Defeated wrestling standout Phil Davis for the title shot. I don't think I need to elaborate much here. If you think Evans was out of his prime when he fought Jones, you are 100% delusional.

5th fighter - Vitor Belfort. Former light heavyweight champion. I won't talk so much about him since Belfort was a replacement for Henderson. I will just give this to you.

If you still think Jones hasn't been fighting the best light heavyweights the world has to offer...you are insane. Who should he fight? Mousasi?
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Guys, calm it down please and drop the insults. Ive had to spend the last 15 minutes infracting members (who know better) and cleaning up in this thread.

Please, stop, or i'll be closing this.
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Guys, calm it down please and drop the insults. Ive had to spend the last 15 minutes infracting members (who know better) and cleaning up in this thread.

Please, stop, or i'll be closing this.
Alright alrighty sorry Killz!

But when a guy is acting that.... blank blank... its hard to not fully express yourself.


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If you still think Jones hasn't been fighting the best light heavyweights the world has to offer...you are insane. Who should he fight? Mousasi?

I asked him that. Let me find the stupid response he gave.

Cormier,Cain,JDS

The LHW champion needs to beat the HW champion in order to make his LHW run legit. Talk about nutty..
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Walks into thread, sees what it has become, a single tear form in my eye - how in the hell did this thread go this wrong?

I know the OP was semi-trolling but you had to make it worse didn't you? I am dissapoint.

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