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Toxic 09-28-2012 09:54 PM

The Official UFC No Topic Thread
 
This idea came to me today while me and another member had a debate that swayed way off the intended topic. This thread is gonna have no topic per say. Debate with the people above you or add to the points of others who recently posted but if the thread changes completely from on page the next that is fine if it's a natural progression of the discussion. Please refrain from replying to posts from to far back to allow the thread to take its natural course and see where we end up.


Let's get it started with a question.

Do you respect somebody like BJ Penn or Randy Couture more for moving up up in weight with mixed results. Or somebody like GSP or Jose Aldo who just stay in there natural weight class and consistently keep winning?


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BlueLander 09-28-2012 10:07 PM

Great Idea Toxic! That's why I love posting here, great community, civil, and organized :)

As for your question, I've got the utmost respect for fighters who fight for the love of the sport. BJ especially is an example of someone who never fought for the money (not like he needed it) and fought all over the board in terms of weight classes. I mean hell didn't he fight Machida at 200 some odd pounds?

Weight holds no baring, Record holds no baring, they just come to fight and I absolutely love that in a fighter!

LL 09-28-2012 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueLander (Post 1631781)
Great Idea Toxic! That's why I love posting here, great community, civil, and organized :)

As for your question, I've got the utmost respect for fighters who fight for the love of the sport. BJ especially is an example of someone who never fought for the money (not like he needed it) and fought all over the board in terms of weight classes. I mean hell didn't he fight Machida at 200 some odd pounds?

Weight holds no baring, Record holds no baring, they just come to fight and I absolutely love that in a fighter!

Believe Machida was actually Heavyweight when he fought BJ, think he was like 220?

I have all the respect for the accomplishments of the GSP's and Aldo's but it takes a crazy son of a bitch like a BJ Penn or a Wanderlei Silva or a Dan Henderson to fight anyone at any weight at any time.

Toxic 09-28-2012 11:42 PM

Yeah machida fought at hw back when he was still Inoki's protegy


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cdtcpl 09-28-2012 11:44 PM

It depends on the reason for the weight class changes. Like Couture going up or down in weight for the challenge, I respect. At the same time, there is something to be said for continuing to run a division. It's not like there isn't plenty of tape on GSP or A.Silva, but people cannot beat their styles. They have fought faster men, bigger men, more technical fighters, brawlers, wrestlers, etc. They have so far proven that when it comes to putting it all together at that one weight class, they stand alone.

A little boozed up, but in summary, I respect them evenly as long as the challenge is there.

rul3z 09-29-2012 02:20 AM

I'm with guys whom test their selves in different divisions.

Toxic 09-29-2012 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TheLyotoLegion (Post 1631782)
Believe Machida was actually Heavyweight when he fought BJ, think he was like 220?

I have all the respect for the accomplishments of the GSP's and Aldo's but it takes a crazy son of a bitch like a BJ Penn or a Wanderlei Silva or a Dan Henderson to fight anyone at any weight at any time.

When you mention easy and hendo it makes me think because really both are guys who highlight just how big the gap between mw and lhw is. I could see both competing at 195 if the division existed along with the likes of Machida, Rashad, Vitor and Franklin. Guys who have never really looked at home in either division either being small at lhw or looking drawn out at mw.


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Hammerlock2.0 09-29-2012 06:09 AM

Guys like BJ, Randy, Hendo, Vitor and Anderson are first class fighters who want to test themselves. Maybe add Frankie since he's fought in a weightclass with bigger guys his whole life.

Guys like GSP are great and all but I'll never mention them in the same sentence as the other guys except when I wanna say "He's not as great as one of them".

Toxic 09-29-2012 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammerlock2.0 (Post 1631828)
Guys like BJ, Randy, Hendo, Vitor and Anderson are first class fighters who want to test themselves. Maybe add Frankie since he's fought in a weightclass with bigger guys his whole life.

Guys like GSP are great and all but I'll never mention them in the same sentence as the other guys except when I wanna say "He's not as great as one of them".

It's scary to when you realize BJ is really not any bigger than Frankie either and didn't even weigh 155 pounds when he entered the UFC the first time.


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edlavis88 09-29-2012 06:52 AM

I'm not too fussed on specific weight divisions but you have to love a fighter who seeks out the toughest challenges he can. In BJ and Randy's cases that meant moving up and down weight.


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