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Old 10-01-2012, 03:07 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Ummm..., I don't know if that's sarcasm or just very stupid. When 2 of 3 judges think someone won the round, guess what..., THAT SOMEONE WON THE ROUND!!!!
Nope, not in the real world where people use their own brains.


I just realized how dumb that sounds. People using their own brain... what is this? The 1760's?

Even if you're a firm believer in "the judges are always right" there's still a 1/3 chance Bones lost the round. That's statistically significant and basically makes the decision void.
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Old 10-01-2012, 10:48 AM   #42 (permalink)
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He ate one clean punch while he was already off balance throwing a kick.
Agree that there was no domination from either fighter on the first round. That phrase up there showcases exactly what Lyoto does best: Counter strikes.
He landed a powerful kick on Jones ribs if I remember well and on the second Jones intelligently changed his game plan and had success.
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Yeah, this is a lot of talk from a guy who got raped choked into unconsciousness by Jones. I'm no huge fan of Jones as a person but when he's beat you you need to stfu. I do think Vitor showed holes in his game, but who cares - nobody's perfect. If you buy into the hype that Jones is unbeatable you're nuts.
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Yeah, this is a lot of talk from a guy who got raped choked into unconsciousness by Jones. I'm no huge fan of Jones as a person but when he's beat you you need to stfu. I do think Vitor showed holes in his game, but who cares - nobody's perfect. If you buy into the hype that Jones is unbeatable you're nuts.
But Machida is up there for another shot. Lyoto shouldnt conceed that he'll never win and leave it that. He obviously got asked about Jones and he said that Jones has big holes in his game, and now Machida will work towards exposing them and utilizing them.
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It's easy to post a GIF of one stuffed takedown attempt and ignore that the entire first round happened. Or, you know, this stuff...







I'm sure Silva's holding the shorts did nothing to negate that takedown attempt. Not that I'm out to start an argument or anything...
Thing is, these pics are of Silva holding the trunks to keep Fail from running away while he's striking.
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Nope, not in the real world where people use their own brains.


I just realized how dumb that sounds. People using their own brain... what is this? The 1760's?

Even if you're a firm believer in "the judges are always right" there's still a 1/3 chance Bones lost the round. That's statistically significant and basically makes the decision void.
You're arguing semantics. 2 of 3 judges score a round for Bones, he won that round. That's the plain truth of the matter. Plus, while using my own brain, Bones won that round easily. Machida landed 1 good strike. Bones did what he wanted when he wanted for the other 4:59.
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Plus, while using my own brain, Bones won that round easily. Machida landed 1 good strike. Bones did what he wanted when he wanted for the other 4:59.
Wow, wow, wow, hold your horses, my friend. Just watched that round again and I recommend you the same.
Lyoto landed two significants body kicks and one punch to the head. Both were sort of even on the leg kicks, but beside that, Jones did absolutely nothing.
Round was not boring because of the importance of the fight, but to say Jones dominated for 04:59 minutes is just plain unrealistic.

Maybe you ment the second round, though?

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I thought Machida won the round, and I dont really think Machida ever "dominates2 against an intelligent striker like Jones. Machida on his best, is 100% counter punching, so if his opponent isn't wilding swinging then it's up for grabs.

Jones adapted and overcame in the second round, and Machida (who to me hadent been focused since he won the title) decides to come forward with rapid karate punches instead of hanging back for the counter. Jones was catching him well and then landed a good shot. Machida wasnt in mass trouble like people put across, but Jones locked in an awesome guillotine to make it an irrelevent point. I don't think it was dominant for Jones like some people say, but it showed great adaptibility in him and showed that Machida needed to refocus big style and keep to his original gameplan (which I believe he has now based on the Bader fight).
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