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Old 10-01-2012, 01:29 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Fighters should stay in shape because that's their job. Preparing for a fight means just that, preparing for a specific opponent, not getting your goddamn cardio back to where it's supposed to be.

And Jones being the champ just means he had more to lose. DURRR.
You literally didn't address any of the points I made.

Cute use of DURRR though, very compelling argument.
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Old 10-01-2012, 01:50 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Rampage pulled out a month away from the fight so Rashad would have had about a month to train.

But he'd also have had to make the weight cut and from what I understand, Rashad is in the 230's right now and he'd also have to go to Brazil to do the last week of cutting weight, which might have been difficult with the translation and what not. I doubt this has less to do with his brand and more to do with him actually having a shot at winning. He'd have been easy prey for Glover had he took it.
Oh I didn't know he was 230ish. I didn't think Rashad cut much at all. I thought he stayed around 210-215. Not sure how he would expect to make 185 if he is getting that fat during his time off. Maybe that is why he isn't dropping to 185.
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Oh I didn't know he was 230ish. I didn't think Rashad cut much at all. I thought he stayed around 210-215. Not sure how he would expect to make 185 if he is getting that fat during his time off. Maybe that is why he isn't dropping to 185.
Rashad has huge legs
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Fighters should stay in shape because that's their job. Preparing for a fight means just that, preparing for a specific opponent, not getting your goddamn cardio back to where it's supposed to be.

And Jones being the champ just means he had more to lose. DURRR.
I hate to disagree but I do. All other sports have an off season, so the atheletes don't burn themselves out by over training. Obviously it isn't the only reason for the off season but it must be part of the reason. So you can't really excpet UFC fighters to train hard all year round to make sure their cardio is always in peak fighting form.

I for sure don't hold any fighter to those standards, because I understand how grueling it would be to always be in fighting shape all the time, and if that was the norm, I would guess their collective careers would be shorter due to injuries and simply buring out.

Also, I have no problem with Evans turning down the fight. Once a fighter has put in his dues, and been a company man and fought over 10 times I think they deserve the priviledge of being able toopt out of fights without backlash from their company. He earned that right in my opinion.

Also I don't like when Dana and company try to talk crap about a fighter for not taking a fight, the way Dana did regarding "meat head- forgot how to spelling his last name lol". They should keep their f*&%$#g mouth's shut because they don't know what's going on in the fighter's life. It just pisses me off when they talk crap.
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Rashad has huge legs
he is also 5'10...

In a division where the norm is 6'1 -6'3
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he is also 5'10...

In a division where the norm is 6'1 -6'3
You're absolutely right. But I don't take the listed heights of fighters too seriously.

I'm 5'11" and I met Fedor in Calgary at an HCF show where Alex was fighting. He's listed as 6' and I was taller than him.

If he's over 5'10" I'd be amazed.

Point being a think a lot of the heights listed might be slightly exaggerated. Carwin for example is listed as 6'5" iirc
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Can we get this right, turning down a short notice fight is fine....its not a knock on them - its in there right to do so.
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I can't believe people are comparing this to Jones turning down the Sonnen fight
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How do people not understand the difference between

Having a 3 month training camp behind you and then getting a change in opponents

And

Being out of shape and fighting on 3 weeks notice.


*sigh*

Someone who has been training his MMA SKILLS for 3+ months isnt stepping up to fight someone on short notice. The guy who is on the couch drinking beer and then stepping up to fight on 2-3 weeks notice is the guy "stepping up on short notice".

There is a HUGE difference.


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Fighters should stay in shape because that's their job. Preparing for a fight means just that, preparing for a specific opponent, not getting your goddamn cardio back to where it's supposed to be.

And Jones being the champ just means he had more to lose. DURRR.
What?? Where did you get that idea??

Preparing for a fight means everything.

Getting in top physical shape. Which includes Speed,Strength,Endurance,Reflexes

Getting your MMA skills on point. Which includes from Wrestling to JJ to Kickboxing to Boxing and everything in between. And making sure all of it is sharp and your reaction time is as fast as can be.

Getting Mentally prepared. Which ranges from being in beast mode to watching tapes on your opponent so you have a strategy prepared.


Having a 3+ month training camp is for everything. If everyone had everything honed in at 100% ALL the time then training camps would have no need to be 3 month long. They could be 2 weeks long and that would give you more then enough time to create a strategy and go over it in the practice room so it becomes second nature.

Being in shape and being in FIGHTING shape is very different. Very few fighters if any stay in fighting shape 100% of the time. Hell Rich Franklin who is one of the hardest workers even when not fighting says that he is in shape but not fighting shape when not fighting. These guys would be insane to train all year long like they do when they are in a training camp.


Their job is to come into a fight in shape. Not to stay in shape all year long. Hell if they win fights then they wouldnt even have to come in into shape. It just happens that if you are not in shape chances are you will lose and if you lose enough you are out.
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