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Old 10-02-2012, 09:49 PM   #21 (permalink)
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FINALLY! The only wins he had are from Fitching people, was terrible.

P.S. The fight wasn't an early stoppage, he dropped like 3 or 4 times.
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:51 PM   #22 (permalink)
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If Mike Pierce fought in 2002, he probably would've been a world champion too. Even in the context of his prime, Randy's skillset was nothing spectacular.

Same goes for Tito...especially with Tito.

Also Jake Ellenberger has more knockouts than Carlos Condit, and was about a punch or two away from adding Condit to that list in a fight that should've been NO WORSE than a draw for Ellenberger.


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No shit he's overrated. This isn't 2006 and the guy can barely beat Brandon Vera.
If Mike Pierce fought in 2002 he would be doing the same half assed training that they did in those years. He would be a part time tough man.

I see what you are saying to a degree. Not even sure exactly what you guys are going back and forth about. But Randy had entertaining fights, Mike Pierce is a tough SOB but his fights are pretty uneventful. Thats where the difference is.

Can't really compare eras like you are doing. Same goes for all sports. Everything has gotten bigger, faster, stronger. And 60 years from now this generation will look out of its league. If many of the guys that fight today fought then they would have had trouble finding fights. They would have been as one-dimensional as many of those fighters. He would be getting a grand a fight doing reservation shows in between the UFC cards that happened every 3 months. Sure if you could take 2012 Mike Pierce and magically tela-port him to 2002 he would have been a top WW.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:32 PM   #23 (permalink)
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You are implying that Mike Pierce is a scrub athlete. Dude was a legit D1 collegiate wrestler and has a concrete chin.
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Old 10-03-2012, 12:54 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Damn! Misses out on a decent payday at 151, now cut from the one company he can make big bucks in? tough break for Brennenman.
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Old 10-03-2012, 03:10 AM   #26 (permalink)
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My point is all of these college boy wrestlers come into the ufc that think they can box as well as wrestle...Hendricks, Ellenberger,
So this place is basically Sherdog, huh?

You lose ONE fight and you're an over rated garbage fighter?

Hendricks and Ellenberger are at the top of the division, the F*** are you smoking?
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So this place is basically Sherdog, huh?

You lose ONE fight and you're an over rated garbage fighter?

Hendricks and Ellenberger are at the top of the division, the F*** are you smoking?
He didnt say they were garbage or not at the top of the division - He said there all alike and all think they can box as well as they can wrestle...

Nothing was mentioned on there ability to win fights or there current position in the division...

I dont really enjoy watching GSP (Although i will admit, absence makes the heart grow fonder) But i still rate him as the best welterweight in the world and P4P top 3....
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Old 10-03-2012, 04:25 AM   #28 (permalink)
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His last fight sure didn't help him.
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So this place is basically Sherdog, huh?

You lose ONE fight and you're an over rated garbage fighter?

Hendricks and Ellenberger are at the top of the division, the F*** are you smoking?
Are you seeing things mate? Where did I ever say they were garbage fighters or call them over rated?

I never disputed that they weren't top welterweights, I said that they're boring generic wrestle-boxers with no flair or personality of their own.

The UFC is way over populated with them at the moment.
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Old 10-03-2012, 04:27 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Are you seeing things mate? Where did I ever say they were garbage fighters or call them over rated?

I never disputed that they weren't top welterweights, I said that they're boring generic wrestle-boxers with no flair or personality of their own.

The UFC is way over populated with them at the moment.
Hendrick doesn't fit that mold at all. He's primarily a striker and he's one of the best at it in the division. He decapitates guys.

And if you don't like wrestling or boxing, what do you like?

You want everyone to do kung-fu and TKD?

Guys use wrestling and boxing because they're probably the two most effective, efficient styles of fighting on the planet.
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