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**Canadian Psycho** · 10-03-2012, 08:02 AM

BJ has shown Rory nothing but disrespect. Read all of his interviews and tweets. He's constantly knocking the kid. Why should Rory show respect to someone who clearly doesn't respect him?

And so what if Rory supposedly had minor issues with Nate Diaz early in the fight? This is the same Diaz we now all champion. That and BJ Penn isn't Nate Diaz. Penn is tired and done. I'll sig bet to that.

**Rauno** · 10-03-2012, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Canadian Psycho

BJ has shown Rory nothing but disrespect. Read all of his interviews and tweets. He's constantly knocking the kid. Why should Rory show respect to someone who clearly doesn't respect him?

This. I don't see why Rory should show any respect towards him when Penn isn't any better.

**Life B Ez** · 10-03-2012, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SM33

Another talented young fighter with no respect. I understand the marketing side of it but when you're fighting a legend, not cool.

You don 't see Gustaf tweeting shit like this to Shogun. Rory is a great fighter but this coupled with the steroid questions surrounding him is not cool, I hope he's not roiding and I hope he shows Penn some respect after he defeats him.

Where else has there been serious roid rumors? I have literally seen it no where but here.

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DonRifle · 10-03-2012, 08:37 AM

Rory probably took that photo ten times until he found the perfect pose where he looked at big as possible. Easy to make your shoulders look like that if you tense em in a certain way. He doesn't look THAT big to me for a pro fighter. Compared to BJ anyone looks in fantastic shape.
Can't wait for this fight, BJ is really gona have to bring more then he's ever brought to win this!

**Guy Incognito** · 10-03-2012, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Canadian Psycho

BJ has shown Rory nothing but disrespect. Read all of his interviews and tweets. He's constantly knocking the kid. Why should Rory show respect to someone who clearly doesn't respect him?

And so what if Rory supposedly had minor issues with Nate Diaz early in the fight? This is the same Diaz we now all champion. That and BJ Penn isn't Nate Diaz. Penn is tired and done. I'll sig bet to that.

amoosenamedhank · 10-03-2012, 09:06 AM

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I'm Canadian, but even I want to see BJ KTFO this disrespectful little shit.

That's funny because I'm not sure they come any more disrespectful than BJ... at least these days.

All BJ does is talk mad shit leading up to a fight...and it's not hype... it's just shit talk. Then comes up with a million excuses why he lost.

What is even more disrespectful is the condition he shows up to fight in. Guy looks like he didn't even get off the couch until 2 weeks out.

If he really loves this sport, it's time to give it up. He made the right choice retiring... he made the wrong choice thinking this sport needed him back.

Joabbuac · 10-03-2012, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by amoosenamedhank

If he really loves this sport, it's time to give it up. He made the right choice retiring... he made the wrong choice thinking this sport needed him back.

Why? He is not old...i dont think he has shown much wear and tear either - he has never been a welterweight but if BJ Penn decided to train like he did under Marv Marinovich and really wanted to be a force again he could be....if he wasnt a mental.

If he beats Rory he might find that fire....

jonnyg4508 · 10-03-2012, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PheelGoodInc

I just rewatched the fight. The first two rounds were fairly close. Rory's wrestling made the difference.

Third round was complete domination by Rory. As far as Nate "getting right back up". Rory was letting him do that so he could suplex him. Rory didn't try to put any weight on his back every time he stood up so he could rag doll him.

At no point did Nate come close to out wrestling Rory either. The first round Nate almost hit a switch and Rory immediately hit his own to get part of Nate's back. That was about as close as Nate came to winning any grappling exchanges in 15 minutes. Not something to brag about.

Beating a 155er with no muscle mass when you are a very big 170 is nothing to brag over either. Especially when said 155er has little to no wrestling even in the 155 division.

**locnott** · 10-03-2012, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Joabbuac

Why? He is not old...i dont think he has shown much wear and tear either - he has never been a welterweight but if BJ Penn decided to train like he did under Marv Marinovich and really wanted to be a force again he could be....if he wasnt a mental.

If he beats Rory he might find that fire....

I love B.J., but Im 99% sure the fire is gone. B.J. has been fighting a long time, I think he wants to fight but not bad enough to put in the work to be his best anymore, I hope he has a decent showing and then takes a serious look at retiring.. ( My hope and opinion.)

**Guy Incognito** · 10-03-2012, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jonnyg4508

Beating a 155er with no muscle mass when you are a very big 170 is nothing to brag over either. Especially when said 155er has little to no wrestling even in the 155 division.

BJ has some of the best. people say Frank Shamrock is the first true Mixed Martial Artist. but BJ is the first true elite Mixed Martial Artist. obviously he has some mental problems but there is no denying his all around skill set is phenomenal.

He will have no trouble handling Rory in the striking and grappling aspect of the fight unless(until?) he gases.

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