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Old 10-05-2012, 01:19 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Size makes all the difference in both these fights and I'd hate for our first real "superfight" to be ruined by one guy (either Anderson or GSP depending on the match) simply being beaten on do to giving up to much size. I personally feel Jon is way to big for Anderson, and Anderson is way to big for GSP. The fights I want to see are Jones/JDS and Silva/Evans. Both would be much more level size wise. Especially if Jones comes into his fight at 230-240. As for GSP? Really don't care. Long lost interest in watching him fight. Just my opinion.
Silva/Evans is NOT a superfight. Superfights are basically put together but two champions fighting each other, and we need something soon because there has been so much talk and it needs to be backed up.

Silva/GSP, Silva/Jones, Jones/JDS. Those are pretty much the only REAL superfights. Edgar and Aldo is big but not quite on their level.

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..Yeah, just read the article off of MMAweekly. I think first, we must see how he fairs against Bonnar at 205. Because of Bonnar's good well-rounded striking, solid power and size, he does pose a considerable threat to Silva if he lands some strikes. If Anderson isn't impressive against Bonnar as he was with Forrest and Irvin, it's a clear he needs to stay at MW. Age 37 is not young in this sport. Anderson really has nothing more to prove. His highlights are some of the best ever. He knows Jones is the 205 now & future. He seems to want no part of it. I think if anybody can beat Jones now it would be Anderson. Imagine JBJ's skills in just a year from now. Anyway, Bonner has about a 5 inch reach advantage with the height as well. Anderson's timing is so sick, if Bonnar comes forward and eats a couple to get in a hard punch, he will get caught. I think Bonnar will have a good gameplan. If not, he'll swing for the fences and go out on his shield like a true MMA warrior...
An impressive win over Bonnar by Anderson doesnt prove anything, but an unimpressive one means A LOT.
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Old 10-05-2012, 01:22 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I'd fight Jones if I got paid 100 grand to do it.
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Old 10-05-2012, 01:31 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I'd fight Jones if I got paid 100 grand to do it.
I'd fight Mike Tyson in his prime for free. It's a bit different when you're already a fighter making loads of money haha.
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Silva/Evans is NOT a superfight. Superfights are basically put together but two champions fighting each other, and we need something soon because there has been so much talk and it needs to be backed up.

Silva/GSP, Silva/Jones, Jones/JDS. Those are pretty much the only REAL superfights. Edgar and Aldo is big but not quite on their level.
I'm not trying to say Evans/Silva would have the "superfight" theme to it like the other two matches (I absolutely hate that word by the way). What I mean is I think Evans/Silva makes the most sense size wise and probably would be the most entertaining of the options based on how their skills differ. Absolutely a better decision then those other two to me. And if we can have that fight for the middleweight title it could be just as big as Silva/Sonnen was.

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I don't know... Obviously i would love to see Silva vs Bones, but than again, i don't like the idea of a 37 yo fighting a prime 25 yo supreme and bigger fighter in Jon Jones, i feel that it would be too much, even for Silva.
But then again, if there's someone out there capable of beating Bones it should be that man.
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He has a clear weakness for BJJ, but who's going to exploit that in the same way that Anderson's wrestling weakness got exploited? There is so much more to becoming the greatest, and adversity and opponent's ability is a big factor of it. If Jones can take out guys like Werdum, Nog and Mir, on his way to becoming HW champion, then he will be more than fitting to be the new greatest.
Sorry, what?

He's never been submitted, a former ADCC medalist came pretty close but couldn't get it done and ended up getting submitted himself later on. He also caught another black belt in Lyoto Machida and choked him out on the feet, not exactly amateur-level stuff. How all of that equates to a "clear weakness for BJJ" baffles me.
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I've said it before, and it barley makes sense, but this is how I feel:-

Jon Jones doesnt deserve to beat Anderson Silva. In the cage, I think as the styles go I'd have Jones as my favourite going in. He's a 24 year old who looks like he could have a hall of fame career ahead of him. At the same time, Machida too looked as such when he was champion. Jones isn't really anywhere near the legacy as GSP or Anderson Silva. If GSP loses to Condit, he is still respected for his career. If Silva loses to Bonnar, likewise. If Jones loses to say Hendo, he becomes a complete fake. He just hasn't earned that stage of greatness, and to hand a guy that hasn't a fight against the greatest of all time, who's more than 10 years his senior and a weight class below, it seems like it's giving him a false legacy. Jones would take over as the greatest of all time despite not really having the same credits to his name right now.

Also, I'd just like to point out the hypocritical nature of half of the posts here. "Anderson shouldnt fight GSP, a guy a weight class below, he should fight Jones". So GSP shouldnt move up but Anderson should?

I want Anderson Vs GSP because it was a fight talked about for years, and not a flavour of the month thing. If someone said "16-0 Machida Vs Anderson", it would have been as big as Jones Vs Anderson would now. Maybe Jones loses down the line. Maybe Cormier smashes him. I just think that if someones going to beat him, it has to be a legend in their own rights, like GSP. Look at Fedor, he's lost so much respect because a guy like Bigfoot Silva beat him, and Silva went on to lose to Cormier and Cain. Jones will eventually move up to HW and probably with mixed success. If someone is to beat the GOAT, I think they should be in the running for the title even before the fight begins.
Interesting points. No way I fight Tyson for free. A broken rib and jaw is at least worth $100k. Actually it would be funny...I'd go straight for a leg lock. His arms are too strong for an armbar or kimura, neck is like a bull so a guillotine will be pretty tough, so ankle/foot lock it is.

Thank goodness for jiu jitsu.
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The best should the fight the best. It would be tragic for them not to, same as Pacquiao and Mayweather. Silva would probably lose, but it'll be a shame when it never happens. Just like how we never saw Fedor in his prime in the UFC, it would have been amazing to see him squaring off against Couture or Mir for the belt. So much politics in what should be a simple concept, the best fight the best.
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I'm not trying to say Evans/Silva would have the "superfight" theme to it like the other two matches (I absolutely hate that word by the way). What I mean is I think Evans/Silva makes the most sense size wise and probably would be the most entertaining of the options based on how their skills differ. Absolutely a better decision then those other two to me. And if we can have that fight for the middleweight title it could be just as big as Silva/Sonnen was.
Even though I hate the idea of Weidman beating Tim and getting a title shot, I'd like to see Evans Vs Bisping and Weidman Vs Silva. Evans is definently an entertaining challenger to Anderson and the KO would be NASTY.

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Sorry, what?

He's never been submitted, a former ADCC medalist came pretty close but couldn't get it done and ended up getting submitted himself later on. He also caught another black belt in Lyoto Machida and choked him out on the feet, not exactly amateur-level stuff. How all of that equates to a "clear weakness for BJJ" baffles me.
Vitor isn't quite the submission fighting that Nog, Mir or Werdum is. He was laying on his back, and Jones was engaging, and had it not been for a lack of activity on the bottom on Vitor's part, you could easily see him locking it in again. The submissions that Jones locked in arent specifically BJJ submissions. BJJ isn't just "submission fighting". Jones used his length to get the choke on Machida, and didnt even perform the lock onto Vitor right (although Vitor didnt struggle too much as he was battered and bruised). I've said it before, I honestly see Jones (pre-Vitor) losing to Struve by submission. He said that he has recognized the weakness and is working to fix it, so maybe it will never be exploited again.

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Interesting points. No way I fight Tyson for free. A broken rib and jaw is at least worth $100k. Actually it would be funny...I'd go straight for a leg lock. His arms are too strong for an armbar or kimura, neck is like a bull so a guillotine will be pretty tough, so ankle/foot lock it is.

Thank goodness for jiu jitsu.
I mean if I got insurance for the fight obviously. And I meant in boxing. I have no issues with being KOed really. Hasn't happened to date but if I was afraid of it, I'd be a pretty bad Glaswegian haha. It's a once in a lifetime thing for a non fighter to step into the centre of the ring in front of everyone in the world and fight for the world championship. I have a 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 chance of becoming the new boxing world champion, and those odds are awesome considering that they are 0 without it.
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