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View Poll Results: Would you order a PPV? Tune in to the next free card?

Ugh, I'd rather watch reruns of "Glee." 3 15.00%
The card wasn't that bad, I might not order any PPVs but I'd tune into the next free one. 6 30.00%
The card was dull, but the promo for 153 wasn't. I'd buy it. 2 10.00%
I'd definitely start watching every card available after this. 9 45.00%
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Old 10-06-2012, 02:49 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Looking at the main card I'd say yea, it wasn't that great. Browne injured his knee, Neer-Edwards ended too quick and Ellenberger-Hieron was meh. I skipped the flyweight fight so I don't know if it was good, nor do I care.

BUT, the prelims were amazing. Great from start to finish. If I looked at the card as a whole and not just the main card, I'd definitely comeback for more.
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Is there a bigger group of whiners than MMA fans?

Pretty bad when an entire card littered with stoppages gets shit on.
I'd have to agree with this. MMA fans are such snobs.
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So several of you seem to think that the people who didn't enjoy those fights are whiners? So the logical reaction for you is to whine about them?

Listen. There can be stoppages in a fight and it still have been a bad fight. Gabriel Gonzaga/Kevin Jordan ended with a brutal ko but it was still a bad enough fight that Rich Franklin apologized for it after his fight. The first fight ended quickly but in impressive fashion. The second fight - the flyweights - was just boring. Fast paced circling with few instances of offense and the ko shot was wonky. It barely hit the other guy and it didn't hit anything vital. Hieron/Ellenberger was just flat out boring from beginning to end. Browne/Silva had an exciting end but it was marred by Browne jacking his knee up and Bigfoot winning.

Outside of the prelims what was entertaining about last night's card?
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Outside of the prelims what was entertaining about last night's card?
Maybe it's just me but I enjoyed the irony of Browne injuring his knee while trying to move like a featherweight.
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So several of you seem to think that the people who didn't enjoy those fights are whiners? So the logical reaction for you is to whine about them?

Listen. There can be stoppages in a fight and it still have been a bad fight. Gabriel Gonzaga/Kevin Jordan ended with a brutal ko but it was still a bad enough fight that Rich Franklin apologized for it after his fight. The first fight ended quickly but in impressive fashion. The second fight - the flyweights - was just boring. Fast paced circling with few instances of offense and the ko shot was wonky. It barely hit the other guy and it didn't hit anything vital. Hieron/Ellenberger was just flat out boring from beginning to end. Browne/Silva had an exciting end but it was marred by Browne jacking his knee up and Bigfoot winning.


Outside of the prelims what was entertaining about last night's card?
That's just it, OP said 'from top to bottom' suggesting the entire card was rubbish, which it wasn't. The Dodson fight wasn't all the great up until the KO and this is coming from a fan of Dodson's and the Flyweight division but other than that, I didn't think the card sucked that much. A lot of people didn't like Ellenberger/Heiron but I did.

As for my original post, it seems MMA fans will complain about anything, they don't like wrestling, they don't like fighters using strategy, they don't like the lighter weights, they don't like when fights end in stoppages unless something happens before.

Some of those are valid, not everyone is gonna like the same thing, but from top to bottom? This whole card wasn't really that bad. If OP had said the main card wasn't that great then I wouldn't have had a problem but no one has seen the "fight to finish" argument more than myself and now we get a card loaded with finishes and people are still complaining.
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Any fight can be a good fight, any fight can be a bad fight. On paper this card was great, in reality it wasn't great but the reason I watch it is because it is REAL.

I love fighting. Browne blew his knee, that is a part of fighting. I remember my first MMA experiences and it was a mixed bag, it always will be, that is the beauty of MMA.

Negative fight strategies are more common now but they are not ruling the divisions and they never will. As a fight fan fan I enjoy seeing how far these athletic 'fighters' go before losing and never making a streak again.

Fighters will prevail in the world of fighting, as a fight fan you know that you will not get true fighters in every bout.
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Maybe it's just me but I enjoyed the irony of Browne injuring his knee while trying to move like a featherweight.
That's not irony. It's you being a dick for enjoying watching a fighter blow out their knee.

LL - What the OP probably meant was the main card. If you were brand new to mma would you have hunted down the prelims and watched them? No. You would have watched the main card because you probably wouldn't have even known about the other fights.

You like complaining as much as the rest of us. About us having a problem with a fight or a particular strategy or - heaven forbid - what you do in every Anderson thread. It's the pot calling the kettle black.

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Old 10-07-2012, 01:23 AM   #28 (permalink)
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If this was the first card I saw, no I would not give MMA a second look. I payed almost no attention to it at all. I had the tv on mute for most of it and just listened to some music while looking at things on the net.
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The card was alright. I mean it's no Anderson Silva but it was a decent showing. A big man looking guy with a knockout is enough to get a complete new comer into the spot. I started watching from Brock to Nick Diaz and then Nick in SF to UFC but this card was enough for a nobody to get into the shit.

You guys are just moaning. This was a decent enough free card, and the next PPV is crazy good, so stfu and enjoy your fav sport instead of compalining about it. LL is right man, stop whining and enjoy this shit.
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This was a decent enough free card, and the next PPV is crazy good, so stfu and enjoy your fav sport instead of compalining about it. LL is right man, stop whining and enjoy this shit.
In your opinion.

And how does being disappointed with this card have anything to do with how awesome the next card is going to be? Just because the next card will be good doesn't make last night's card any better. Some cards just suck. Some are awesome. It's not whining to have not enjoyed a fight or a card. It's opinion.
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