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***OFFICIAL*** Jon Fitch vs. Erick Silva Thread

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#1 ·
Welterweight bout: 170 pounds

 
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#135 · (Edited)
Wow, I thought Fitch would win, but that was a pretty impressive performance by him as well. I'm happy to see him get the win, he's still a top 5 welterweight in my opinion. The guy got caught by Hendricks, it happens, and it doesn't have to mean he is passed his prime. He proved a lot here tonight.

I'm sure Silva will learn from this and be back.
 
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#136 ·
Fun fight, one of the best I've seen in a while.
I've grown sour towards Fitch lately but tonight he fought with something to prove. He mauled Silva in the third round. Erick Silva did well considering. The guy came to fight and put on a show. Definitely nothing he needs to be ashamed of, but he needs to work on that gas tank.
 
#137 ·
I take my hat off to Jon Fitch, as I said in my first post in this thread, I'm a fan of the guy if anything.

However this doesn't change a thing. Silva was beaten by a combination of a pumped up Fitch and his own arrogance. He'll be back, and he will wear the gold. Of that much I'm certain.
 
#144 ·
I had NO idea Fitch was that good at submissions. I hadent really watched him, must have seen a boring fight and got turned off, but tonight he earned my respect insanley. I thought he would control with his wrestling (because Erick fans played it down but Brennaman kicked his ass with wrestling) but Fitch showed so much more. I previously didnt like him and now he's up there in my fav fighters. He beats Kampmann any day of the week fighting like that.
 
#149 · (Edited)
To all the people claiming Fitch is boring, you really have to go back and actually watch his fights. These guys he takes down pull guard and hold onto his hands for 3 rounds. THEY make the fights boring.

If everyone just lay there like Silva in round three, Fitch would look like a beast in all his fights. It`s easy to look like a badass when your opponent mentally checks out and just lies there like a dead fish, it`s a bit harder when they`re content to lose a decision and hold you hands the whole fight.

There`s been so many Fitch fights where he clearly won rounds one and two and his opponent was content to just hang on in round three. If those opponents had been scrambling and giving up their backs and trying to actually get up and fight him, they would have been leaving those openings for the chokes and the GnP. It`s easy to blame the guy on top when a ground battle is boring, but sometimes you have to look at the guy on the bottom and think, why isn`t he trying to get up?

Fitch came out a bit more aggressive tonight, but he was also fighting a guy who played right into his game and then folded mentally when he didn`t get his way. Most guys Fitch fights don`t do that. Fitch has been fighting the best of the best for years and beating them, they`re the best of the best because unlike Silva, they don`t just give up when they`re losing and let him hit them.

Go back early in his career, Fitch has 10 stoppages because he was fighting guys like Silva who couldn`t defend the onslaught and just lay there.

It's all about matchups. There are loads of guys at 170 that the UFC could feed to Fitch and Fitch will beast them just like tonight and the UFC can hype Fitch up for another title shot. The problem is Dana publicly states he doesn't like Fitch and he's not about to give him fights that make him look good.

See, Dana likes Silva, and I guarantee he isn't going to give Silva any more fights with guys with Fitch's skill set for a while. He'll give him a bunch of guys who don't have the wrestling ability to take him down and don't have the striking to hang with him so Silva can run around throwing flashy kicks and shit and looking like a killer.

But if the UFC gives Fitch the right opponents, they can build him up like the beast he is. Spoiler alert: they won't do it. And iirc it's all over some stupid f****** beef with Dana over licensing rights and a f****** video game. Fitch punked Dana like 5 years ago and Dana's fragile little ego has never recovered from it.

/essay
 
#150 ·
To all the people claiming Fitch is boring, you really have to go back and actually watch his fights. These guys he takes down pull guard and hold onto his hands for 3 rounds. THEY make the fights boring.

If everyone just lay there like Silva in round three, Fitch would look like a beast in all his fights. It`s easy to look like a badass when your opponent mentally checks out and just lies there like a dead fish, it`s a bit harder when they`re content to lose a decision and hold you hands the whole fight.

Fitch came out a bit more aggressive tonight, but he was also fighting a guy who played right into his game and then folded mentally when he didn`t get his way. Most guys Fitch fights don`t do that because Fitch has been fighting the best of the best for years.

Go back early in his career, he has 10 stoppages because he was fighting guys like Silva who couldn`t defend the onslaught.
:laugh: when Silva was just laying there he suddenly looked like the guy who cant finish anyone. When Silva was giving him just about as much as he could handle he looked different than normal - Silva forced somethng extra from Fitch.
 
#156 ·
Boring or not, Fitch used legit wrestling technique to win. To curse wrestling does not help no one to overcome it, just like happens to BJJ. It may be boring for some in certain occasions, but opponents have to get over it somehow.

Erick is still green. That loss will only make good to him, training wise and attitude wise.

Congrats to Fitch.


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#158 ·
Silva needs to work on getting the **** up correctly. He tried that fight like a banshee and get up no matter what and got his back taken repeatedly.

Don't count Fitch out said it before this fight, silva can be controlled on the mat.

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#159 ·
Jon Fitch gained a fan in me last night.

I thought he was outstanding. Silva came in with an 'I can't be beaten' attitude and Fitch took him to the cleaners. It's a shame he couldn't get the finish but I agree with the ref not stopping it.

Definitely FOTN for me.
 
#160 ·
What made Fitch boring was him constantly holding onto a submission attempt which he always failed to even come close to locking in. i guess he always wanted to try and show off Camarillo's guerilla Jiu-Jitsu as being legit.

His fights with Bj and Saunders were decent because he mainly focused on GnP.
 
#162 ·
Fitch looked really, really good. Very exciting fight. Sucked seeing Silva so dejected, he fought a good fight but just got overwhelmed in the end.
 
#163 ·
I tip my hat to Jon Fitch. I was fairly neutral going into the fight, giving the slight edge to Silva, but Fitch came out like a man on a mission, did the job, and did it very well.

I actually found myself rooting for Jon in the fight just because I could see how determined he was to win and you could just see how much it meant to him during the fight.

Well done Fitchy.
 
#166 ·
I picked Silva and he almost damn near got the win. Not bad for such a young kid. I mentioned earlier that this fight would define him. Barboza and The Bronx whom are both upcoming fighters lost once they were tested against veterans. Erick Silva on the other hand did not lose the way they did. He came close to finishing and did not quit or tap out.

This showed where Erick is at. He's championship caliber once he works on his game planning, mental toughness which for the most was displayed by him not quitting, and finally his conditioning. I believe if he had more energy he may have been able to finish the submissions or at least reverse the unfavorable positions he was put in as he did earlier on in the fight. By the third it was survival mode.

No doubt FOTN material. This kid is for real. Once he hones his craft he'll be a major force.

Great comeback for Fitch. One of his better fights. Most likely due to the scrappy nature of Erick. All the other fighters broke under the pressure.
 
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#168 ·
Broke Fitch shall now be spoken of in the same sentence as 'Healthy Shogun', 'Motivated BJ', 'Chuck with that look in his eyes' and 'Old Vitor'
 
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