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Anderson Silva
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Stephan Bonnar
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Draw
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10-13-2012, 11:26 AM
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#41 (permalink)
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Super Heavyweight
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Originally Posted by TheLyotoLegion
If Bonnar comes at him like a raging bull then yeah probably.
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Yea if he comes in with a hard-on he surly will go limp at some point.
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10-13-2012, 11:30 AM
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#42 (permalink)
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Black Hippy
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Hendo could take my best punch..with a baseball bat and Silva rocked him. I'm going with K R Y's method here.
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10-13-2012, 12:14 PM
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#43 (permalink)
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Bantamweight
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Originally Posted by LizaG
If Bonnar can take a spinning elbow to the back of the head, followed by a faceplant against JBJ...he'll got the distance against Anderson.
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but JBJ doesnt have the accuracy or the power that silva has
however with silva coming into this fight as the MW version of himself and not the more powerful LHW version, i suspect it might take more than one round for him to finish bonnar
Last edited by dsmjrv : 10-13-2012 at 12:17 PM.
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10-13-2012, 12:18 PM
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#44 (permalink)
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Welterweight
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Originally Posted by dsmjrv
but JBJ doesnt have the accuracy or the power that silva has
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Yeah, Jones isn't even close to the same level as Anderson in terms of striking. Anderson is the most accurate striker in the UFC, Jones wins with his reach, his size and his wrestling. If he wasn't so big he'd be mediocre, meanwhile Andy could beat up most anyone bigger than him that isn't good at wrestling. He'd probably win a K-1 match against everyone but Reem and JDS. Bonnar's only chance is to do what GSP did to BJ in the first round, shove him against the cage and wear him down. Anderson's got a pretty solid chin so even if they stand in the pocket Bonnar will get Okami'd.
There's a huge difference between a big guy landing a punch at random and Anderson's laser guided jabs straight to the jaw, the only guy that can take accurate punches and walk through them is Roy Nelson. Forrest was known for his ability to take a beating and he got rocked by a light jab. I see Bonnar taking a similar fate to Forrest unless he manages to just weigh Andy down for 3 rounds. People are touting Bonnar's ripped physique, but that has meant nothing in countless fights in the UFC. If physique was everything Houston Alenxander would be the champ.
Last edited by rabakill : 10-13-2012 at 12:25 PM.
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10-13-2012, 12:23 PM
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#45 (permalink)
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Super Heavyweight
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I don't want to get stoned by all of you. But Bonnar's chin is overrated. Yes, OVERRATED.
He has a very good chin and will keep coming. He doesn't back down in fights. But lets not act like it is a Hendo level chin.
Exactly who has he fought that are real "killers" with big power? He has fought literally no guys like this. Igor Pokrajac may be the closest one and he is a lower tier LHW.
Kingsbury, Krzyztof, Mark Coleman, a very GREEN Bones, Schafer, Mike Nikels, Forrest, TUF Rashad (even Rashad now), Jardine?
None of those guys are power strikers or KO artists.
Bonnar awesome chin has never been tested vs. a real striker since Machida back in 2003. Not even a brawler. Not even a semi-power puncher.
So in my opinion it is overrated. He hasn't been up against guys like Rampage, Fedor, Shogun, Feijao like Hendo has. So his chin can't be classified as such.
Not saying he doesn't have a chin. But he hasn't ate punches from a guy even a quarter as destructive as ANderson on the feet.
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10-13-2012, 12:49 PM
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#46 (permalink)
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Bantamweight
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interesting

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10-13-2012, 01:13 PM
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#47 (permalink)
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Flyweight
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He won't go limp. Think Pissping/Hendo, after the Hendo falling attempted murder. Except Bonnar will go stiff standing, and just kinda fall.
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10-13-2012, 01:31 PM
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#48 (permalink)
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Lightweight
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Originally Posted by dsmjrv
interesting

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Maybe that's one of the reasons why he is still the elite at his age. He hasn't worn down his body with constant massive weight cutting during his career.
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10-13-2012, 02:03 PM
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#49 (permalink)
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Lightweight
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dsmjrv
but JBJ doesnt have the accuracy or the power that silva has
however with silva coming into this fight as the MW version of himself and not the more powerful LHW version, i suspect it might take more than one round for him to finish bonnar
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He doesn't need more mass to deliver enough damage to drop LHWs or even HWs as he doesn't use brute force to KO people but accurate technique. He's one of the few people who actually are able to apply the martial arts concept of using your opponent's force against him. That way he dropped some of his opponents with minimal force of his own (jab knock downs on Griffin and Okami). Bonnar's wild forward walking style is taylor made for Silva's counter where he just needs to stretch out his fist and let Bonnar's forward momentum do the rest in the power equation. It's like making him running with closed eyes face first into a brick wall.
He'd only need more mass if he were afraid to be pushed around by physical stronger guys and to be able to absorb more damage on the body, but concerning delivering damage, his MW weight is fine enough.
I wouldn't be surprised of a 1st rd KO.
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10-13-2012, 03:38 PM
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#50 (permalink)
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Light Heavyweight
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I doubt it. Don't get me wrong, I think a TKO is definitely a possibility. But Silva has never had that ridiculous KO power to make someone go limp. I think Vitor is the only guy he's ever made limp in the UFC. Everyone else was awake but not fighting back or defending themselves.
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