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Old 10-15-2012, 09:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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UFC 153 referee stoppages, or lack thereof *Spoliers*

Is it just me or did it seem like the refs were really going out of their way to let the fights continue?

Texeira/Maldonado is a perfect example, but what about Fitch/Silva? That 3rd round was an absolute beating and I could see this type of fight getting stopped. Fitch had Silva mounted and was raining down hard punches and elbows for basically 5 minutes. Erick had absolutely zero offence at this point and took a lot of punishment.
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I was actually kind of ticked about the Fitch/Silva fight. Silva was literally getting pounded on for two whole minutes, and we've seen fights stopped for far less. Just felt as though the referee had robbed Fitch of a long sought finish, which would have capped off his FOTN performance rather nicely.
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If that hadn't been in Brazil Fitch might have got the stoppage.

There's a huge difference though, between the punches that Erick took and the one's Fabio took, I'm a huge Fitch fan and have been for a long time but he's not got a lot of power in his hands, Erick was alright taking them, Fabio was eating sledgehammers to the face and he was eating them rapidly.

If Fitch/Silva had got stopped and Glover/Fabio didn't, I would have been upset. Fabio was in some serious danger.
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If that hadn't been in Brazil Fitch might have got the stoppage.

There's a huge difference though, between the punches that Erick took and the one's Fabio took, I'm a huge Fitch fan and have been for a long time but he's not got a lot of power in his hands, Erick was alright taking them, Fabio was eating sledgehammers to the face and he was eating them rapidly.

If Fitch/Silva had got stopped and Glover/Fabio didn't, I would have been upset. Fabio was in some serious danger.
For once I agree, sorta. I think Fitch was almost as gassed as Erick and that's why his GnP wasn't particularly devastating. A lot like round 5 of Rua vs Henderson.

I agree that if it hadn't been in Brazil it probably would've been stopped.

The stoppage of Silva vs Bonnar was quite quick and decisive too, by contrast. Bonnar was covering up a lot better than Either Silva or Maldonado were. Not that I disagree with the stoppage, it's just that there was a clear double-standard.
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This being in Brazil DEFINITELY had a lot to do with it. And yes I also agree that Fitch could have easily been granted a TKO/stoppage - he might not hit as hard as Glover but he was in full mount raining down elbows repeatedly for a large portion of the second round.

I recall the fight with KenFlo/Lauzon - Kenny had Lauzon mounted and was peppering him with punches and the fight was stopped. Fitch was hitting Erick much harder for much longer and the fight went on.
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If someone is still in it, the fight shouldnt be stopped. The only time I think it should be stopped is when somebody goes limp, or a cut is too damaging. Maldonado went through hell, but still had a punchers chance and we've seen it many times before. He shouldnt have been stopped after leaving it all out there and wanting to continue. He was on his feet and he could throw punches. That's enough. Silva was under a full mount, which is the only reason he took shots. He was trying to get out of it, blocking, and doing everything he could from the position. Neither fight should have been stopped imo.
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LOL @ Fitch throwing hard punches.. Silva was defending himself, most of those strikes were just hitting his arms.
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If someone is still in it, the fight shouldnt be stopped. The only time I think it should be stopped is when somebody goes limp, or a cut is too damaging. Maldonado went through hell, but still had a punchers chance and we've seen it many times before. He shouldnt have been stopped after leaving it all out there and wanting to continue. He was on his feet and he could throw punches. That's enough. Silva was under a full mount, which is the only reason he took shots. He was trying to get out of it, blocking, and doing everything he could from the position. Neither fight should have been stopped imo.
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Imo, the ref would be in his right and his obligation to stop the Glover/Fabio fight even if Fabio was still up and fighting back.
It's just common sense that someone's brain can't/shouldn't absorb that much punishment as Fabio's did...
As for Fitch/Silva, i never felt Silva was in real trouble so i don't agree with folks that are calling for a stoppage in that one.

Luckily, Fabio has the p4p doctor attending him. :P

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Haha dope pic. Yeah I mean I wouldnt complain, but if had a Frazier/Ali feeling to it. The dude went though all that punishment for nothing, he still ended up being stopped. Feels like it was all for nothing now.
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For once I agree, sorta. I think Fitch was almost as gassed as Erick and that's why his GnP wasn't particularly devastating. A lot like round 5 of Rua vs Henderson.

I agree that if it hadn't been in Brazil it probably would've been stopped.

The stoppage of Silva vs Bonnar was quite quick and decisive too, by contrast. Bonnar was covering up a lot better than Either Silva or Maldonado were. Not that I disagree with the stoppage, it's just that there was a clear double-standard.
No, Silva vs Bonnar was completely different. While the comparison you made between Fitch vs Silva and Rua vs Henderson isn't far off as Fitch controlled the exhausted Silva, but didn't do any real damage to him, because he was so exhausted himself - Bonnar got dropped, because he was badly hurt by Silva's knee and Silva was totally fresh and punched him with full force. Bonnar was still wobbly almost two minutes after the fight was stopped when he came back to the referee for the TKO anouncement.

In my eyes it was correct to stop Silva vs. Bonnar and to not stop Fitch vs Silva. No double standard between those two bouts in my book.

Texeira vs Maldonado could have been stopped earlier though.
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