Originally Posted by Canadian Psycho
Kind of like how he did in the Nick Diaz fight?
C'mon mate, I know you're a much better and more educated poster than to type some thing like that.
You and I both know you can't judge a fighters ability from just one fight. Condit has shown in almost all of his fights his tenacity, intensity and killer instinct and has earned his octagon nick name.
Condit has good BJJ that he uses to sweep and try to keep fights standing. His actual finishing ability isn't all that great. I very highly doubt that he could submit GSP especially since GSP's wrestling and control is far more dominant.
Standing Condit may have some more power but he is going to be afraid of the takedown which will limit his strikes significantly and then he will get picked apart by GSP's jabs as he tries to get into range.
Just go rewatch Condit vs MacDonald, Ellenberger and Kampmann then tell me you think he has a chance against GSP who is better then all those fighters in every regard...
I honestly won't be that surprised if GSP manhandles Condit, beats him up on the ground and after 2-3 rounds sinks in a submission. I just don't think Condit has the wrestling or BJJ to withstand GSP's ground game.
He only uses his BJJ to sweep to keep fights standing. Not in the Carlos Condit fights I've watched throughout his career. He can either sweep you to get back to his feet, sweep to set up submissions, or sweep to reverse you and work from the top with ground and pound. Condit is very well versed on the ground and has a wide array of tools to use.
His actual finishing ability isn't very good? Huh? Condit has 28 wins with 26 of those wins coming by some form of stoppage. 50/50 split with knock outs and submissions. That is an incredibly impressive statistic. Condits finishing ability simply put, is out standing. One single fight with Nick Diaz doesn't change that fact.
I think you should rewatch the Ellenberger and Rory fights, in fact, I think most fans should go and rewatch them, seeing as though everyone likes to refer to them as some kind of indication of Condit's weakness.
I've no idea why the Ellenberger fight was a split decision Ellenberger smashed Condit in the first round. Rounds two and three how ever were completely dominated by Condit. He got the better of Jake on the feet, and completely schooled him on the ground in both rounds. Clear cut and impressive victory.
Rory Macdonald fight. Try watching it on mute so you don't get swayed by Rogan's notoriously biased commentary for the under dog. Rounds one and two were close, with Carlos getting the edge in the striking exchanges. Rory scored some take downs in which he did nothing with. It was actually Condit who was inflicting more damage from the bottom and was the aggressor. Round three was a mauling. A completely one sided beat down on a kid they are hailing as the future of the division. Condit out grappled Rory in that round and smashed his head in with ruthless ground and pound. Another impressive victory against a top tier welterweight.