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Old 10-17-2012, 12:08 AM   #11 (permalink)
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This was said during the post fight conference. Take it with a big grain of salt if you don't know what the context was. Basically this is not the reason he wants to fight GSP over Jones.
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:26 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I have no idea why most people are against Silva fighting GSp. I remember 2-3 years ago ,and after the first chael fight when the GSP train was rolling people heavily favor GSP in a Silva fight. I'm sure if he beats condit like he has every other WW the train will start up again.
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I have no idea why most people are against Silva fighting GSp. I remember 2-3 years ago ,and after the first chael fight when the GSP train was rolling people heavily favor GSP in a Silva fight. I'm sure if he beats condit like he has every other WW the train will start up again.
People have finally realised what I was saying all along, his TDD is very underrated, it makes the fight with Georges seem a lot easier for Andy now that he's stuffed Chael when healthy. People didn't believe the rib injury, claimed Chael was the king, Anderson came in healthy and destroyed him.

That coupled with GSP's injury and the plethora of contenders at 170 make it a harder sell nowadays. I do agree though, I think if GSP dominates Condit the talk will start again, he just hasn't fought in so long and everything he's been doing is so underwhelming (failing to tap Dan Hardy, shit fight with Shields) whereas Anderson has been looking better than ever.

I'd like to see Andy beat Bones and GSP and I think he can do it, I really hope he changes his mind, I mean it's not the first time he's said one thing and changed his mind later on.

Diaz V Andy would be cool but it would be pretty short, there's no threat of a TD and Nick would come at him looking like Leben did in Andy's debut.
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I really wish people would stop deluding themselves into thinking that Anderson 'destroyed' Sonnen in the second fight. Please tell me how losing the first round (where was his world class TDD then?) and every minute in the second up until Chael slipped on a banana peel and practically handed Anderson the fight constitutes 'destruction'. Silva defeated Sonnen in their second fight. In no way did he destroy him. Bonnar, Irvine, Griffin, and Okami... now these are men Anderson destroyed.
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I dont want to say hes afraid of Jones... but its kind of sad that hes singling out GSP, especially because of his smaller frame.

Jones is clearly the better challenge for him, and I think the majority of fans have switched from waiting a GSP/Silva superfight to a Silva/Jones superfight.

GSP has plenty of fights left at WW. The only top 5 he has faced already is Fitch. Silva and Jones have cleaned out their divisions, GSP has not.
GSP has plenty of fights left at WW? Sorry, no offense, but thats just wrong. I hope this is trolling, you can't seriously think that the guys at WW GSP hasn't fought yet, bring anything to the table that he hasn't already destroyed.

Ellenburger, Hendricks, Kampmann, those are all good fighters, but they have nothing GSP hasn't beaten, and beaten easily. I have no interest in any fight at WW for GSP, the only reason he has to fight Condit is to tie up loose ends, that fight is a gimme as well.

If you think GSP should just stay at WW because WW is the div he belongs in, thats fine, and probably true, he would be a small MW, but there are no challenges left for him at WW, other than running up title defenses. Watching him smash Diaz would be amusing, but it won't challenge him more than anyone else has.
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I really wish people would stop deluding themselves into thinking that Anderson 'destroyed' Sonnen in the second fight. Please tell me how losing the first round (where was his world class TDD then?) and every minute in the second up until Chael slipped on a banana peel and practically handed Anderson the fight constitutes 'destruction'. Silva defeated Sonnen in their second fight. In no way did he destroy him. Bonnar, Irvine, Griffin, and Okami... now these are men Anderson destroyed.
It's Irvin, not Irvine.

Chael's offense was completely nullified in the first round. I don't know how or why laying in someone's guard whilst doing mounting virtually no offense = winning a round. He was stuffed in the second and embarassed on the feet. "Slipped on a banana peel" is only a weak excuse for Chael breaking during the fight and throwing caution to the wind with a hail mary spinning back fist.

When was the last time your boy threw one of those? Why was he so out of his element at that stage? He was lured into the web and then eaten, just like everybody else. Don't deny the ribs now
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It's Irvin, not Irvine.
Correcting a minor typo and acting as though it somehow makes you look superior. How juvenile.

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Chael's offense was completely nullified in the first round. I don't know how or why laying in someone's guard whilst doing mounting virtually no offense = winning a round. He was stuffed in the second and embarassed on the feet. "Slipped on a banana peel" is only a weak excuse for Chael breaking during the fight and throwing caution to the wind with a hail mary spinning back fist.
Who spent five minutes maintaining top control and finished the round in full mount? Chael Sonnen. Who remained on bottom and did little more than hold onto Sonnen in hopes of a stand-up? Anderson Silva. Whether or not Sonnen threw or landed anything of consequence is irrelevant. He spent five minutes maintaining top position while Anderson lay underneath him. Unless you've never watched an MMA bout in your life, you're more than aware that Sonnen won that round. Perhaps he didn't do so via a method that you'd prefer, but that would be beside the point.

Sonnen also maintained cage control in the second. No, he wasn't able to take Anderson down - we can accredit that to Anderson's world class TDD or the fact that he so blatantly held onto Sonnen's shorts for a good 45 seconds. Either way, Sonnen made a mistake and tried to fancily strike with the world's best striker when he ought to have stuck to his bread and butter. There is no excuse... Chael made an error and he paid for it. Simple as.

lol, embarrassed on the feet... it wasn't until Chael toppled over due to his spinning back fist that Anderson landed anything of consequence. After that it was over, and over quickly. Forrest Griffin was embarrassed standing. Stephan Bonnar was embarrassed standing. Yushin Okami was embarrassed standing. Chael Sonnen, on the other hand, was the unfortunate victim of his own clumsiness and a beautifully placed knee.

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Anderson Silva holding my shorts to avoid a takedown whilst peppering me with jabs would make me resort to desperate measures as well. What you fail to realize is that I take no issue with the comment 'Anderson defeated Chael'. I simply don't view it as destruction. Because it was far from it. There are plenty of fights where Anderson has completely demolished his opponents, and this wasn't one of them.
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I have no idea why most people are against Silva fighting GSp. I remember 2-3 years ago ,and after the first chael fight when the GSP train was rolling people heavily favor GSP in a Silva fight. I'm sure if he beats condit like he has every other WW the train will start up again.
You have a very different recollection than I do. Before Silva fought Sonnen I remember the general conensus being that he would easily destroy GSP. It was only after Sonnen took him down and kept him there for 4 1/2 rounds that people started saying maybe GSP could do that as well. Even after that it was never a significant majority picking GSP, it was still more like 50-50.
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I really wish people would stop deluding themselves into thinking that Anderson 'destroyed' Sonnen in the second fight. Please tell me how losing the first round (where was his world class TDD then?) and every minute in the second up until Chael slipped on a banana peel and practically handed Anderson the fight constitutes 'destruction'. Silva defeated Sonnen in their second fight. In no way did he destroy him. Bonnar, Irvine, Griffin, and Okami... now these are men Anderson destroyed.
You are almost more delusional then Chael himself...

Yes Chael had a good first round but in the 2nd Silva stuffed multiple takedown attempts, caught Chael with a couple punches and already had Chael flustered when he went for the spinning backfist and ended up on his ass... Silva then placed a devastating knee and some great punches to put Sonnen away.

Didn't matter if Sonnen slipped on that punch or not. Silva had already gone into kill mode and Sonnen wasn't going to make it out of that round.
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Silva stuffed two takedown attempts. One was brilliant and of his own devices. The other was by virtue of his holding Sonnen's shorts, which is where he also managed to land those punches you so conveniently raise.



Oh, hey... imagine that. Actual proof. Please go ahead and deny the existence of the above video footage so that I can have another laugh. I understand that Anderson's fans are easily offended, but note once again that I'm not saying Anderson didn't land beautiful shots, stuff a takedown, or win the fight. I'm simply stating that it was the furthest thing from a mugging. If you can't admit that then your heads are further up Silva's arse than mine is Sonnen's.
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