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Old 10-21-2012, 04:36 PM   #51 (permalink)
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For years Dana said that his goal was to get onto network TV...

The biggest issue threatening the UFC these days is not the Fox deal or even the injuries; it is the ability of fighters to decline fights.

Hear me out:

When I'm working and my boss tells me to do something, I do it. If I didn't, I may lose my job. If I'm scheduled to work and my direct reports don't show up, I still have to get the job done.

If you're booked to fight at an event and your opponent is injured etc. , you should be contractually obligated fight whoever the powers that be can arrange.

If you're told that you are going to fight an opponent (as long as they are a sanctioned opponent by the state's athletic commission), you should be contractually obligated to do so.

I know that is not how combat sports have traditionally operated, but it would be a welcome change (from my POV at least).

I know some will disagree, but it would definitely add to the consistency of cards (IE. UFC productions) and it could even add to the excitement of upcoming events.
They still don't REALLY have that ability, but I agree with you.

I got massive into MMA maybe in 2009, and I posted on EastSideBoxing that the reason MMA was taking me from boxing was because it was basically run by one promotion. You dont want to fight? You get cut from the only meaningful promotion. Dana (or whoever else behind closed doors) decide who fights who. They dont get to pick and choose. The Jones situation isnt really a downside because it was at such short notice after all and Vitor was the best replacement possible. If Dana offered say Machida a fight agaisnt Jones in April, he';d definently take it. If he didnt want it, he'd still take it, because if he didnt he'd probably get cut for not wanting to fight. UFC has MMA under such great control that we don't have to see fighters like Mayweather decides who to fight and when. Anderson Silva has that option to a degree, but he's picking super fights over defending against low interest MW challengers so I wouldnt really liken it to the boxing situation.

If it ever gets worse, that will be a huge issue in MMA and could start it's decline rapidly, but for the time being I think the UFC has this sown up very well, going as far as giving Chael Sonnen a title shot for stepping up (even though that was a little bit too much, and it should have been a "Who do you want to fight that isnt a champion?" kind of deal).
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Old 10-21-2012, 11:53 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Right now, the UFC has a collection of the most talented fighters ever, and we get to see MUCH more action inside the cage. That puts it way ahead to me.

Tito Ortiz, Chuck Lidell, Dan Henderson, Rampage Jackson, Shogun Rua etc. aren't as talented as Jon Jones.

Every heavyweight with the exception of Overeem and Fedor arent as talented as JDS.

Anderson Silva is the greatest fighter of all time.

GSP is the greatest welterweight of all time.

Ben Hendo can fk off and stop ruining my great streak above.

Jose Aldo to my knowledge is the best FW ever.

Dominic Cruz and Mighty Mouse....ehhhh....whatever.

The fact is, right now with every division, maybe except MW and the new ones, being completley stacked to the top, I dont see how right this second cant be the best time MMA has ever seen. I'm all for nostalgia, but sometimes you have to let the past go and stop complaining about what we have now. Plenty of rap fans complaining in the 90s when NWA and 2pac were around, plenty of boxers complained when Ali and Frazier were around. Looking back, they were wrong, and in like 5 years looking back, you'll realize that you were wrong.
I really don't care about the collection of fighters the UFC has at the moment because a huge percentage of them suck balls and the good ones from days past are getting old and are not the same fighters anymore.

To claim MMA is at it's peak right now is a ******* bad joke. In fact it's the complete opposite as we're waiting for the next generation of fighters to emerge and hopefully bring MMA back to what it once was. When Pride and UFC were at their peaks it pissed all over what we have now. Sorry but you really have no argument here.
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LOL @ the idea that the UFC was at its 'peak' when Tim Sylvia was champion!

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I really don't care about the collection of fighters the UFC has at the moment because a huge percentage of them suck balls and the good ones from days past are getting old and are not the same fighters anymore.

To claim MMA is at it's peak right now is a ******* bad joke. In fact it's the complete opposite as we're waiting for the next generation of fighters to emerge and hopefully bring MMA back to what it once was. When Pride and UFC were at their peaks it pissed all over what we have now. Sorry but you really have no argument here.
Toe to toe, what Pride fighters beats WW-HW in UFC?

Fedor Vs JDS is a close call.
No one Vs Jones.
No one Vs Anderson.
No one Vs GSP

Pride was entertaining, but wasn't a sport. UFC was establishing itself, and it did just that in evolving into the amazing promotion it is today, with the best fighters of all time squaring off against each other all the time.

If JDS Vs Velasquez happened in 2006, you'd be talking to me about it now.
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Toe to toe, what Pride fighters beats WW-HW in UFC?

Fedor Vs JDS is a close call.
No one Vs Jones.
No one Vs Anderson.
No one Vs GSP

Pride was entertaining, but wasn't a sport. UFC was establishing itself, and it did just that in evolving into the amazing promotion it is today, with the best fighters of all time squaring off against each other all the time.

If JDS Vs Velasquez happened in 2006, you'd be talking to me about it now.
Pride wasn't a sport?

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What i think his trying to say is you referred to Pride as sport, not an organization.
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You tell me.
That fight wasn't in Pride.
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What i think his trying to say is you referred to Pride as sport, not an organization.
Kind of realized that after I said it. Pride didn't really show sports programming, should I have said?

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That fight wasn't in Pride.
Fuk, first fight I had posted was Graice Vs Akebono lol.

But whatever, you guys know what I mean. Pride had freakshow fights a lot and stuff and really it was just for the fans entertainment. Now MMA has proper rankings and proper competitive fights being made. Even Sonnen getting a title shot doesnt measure up to some of Pride's crazy fights. It was great, and I loved Pride, but if you're talking about talent and skill, and legitimacy as a sport, then Pride doesnt even come close to current UFC.
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Old 10-22-2012, 03:57 PM   #60 (permalink)
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You tell me.
Someone already pointed out that fight did'nt take place in Pride so there's no need for me to go there. I'm still not sure what point it is you're trying to make though as Pride had a plethora of fighters in their primes and tons of epic battles throughout the years.
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