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Old 10-22-2012, 07:19 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Your original argument was that MMA is at it's best right now, not who you think can beat who from days past.
My focus is on the talent. If the fighters right now can beat the fighters from then, it proves that fighters now are more talented, and to me, in a competitive sport, talent should be everything. The better the fighters, the better the generation. UFC right now is more stacked than old UFC and Pride together.
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Old 10-22-2012, 07:26 PM   #72 (permalink)
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My focus is on the talent. If the fighters right now can beat the fighters from then, it proves that fighters now are more talented, and to me, in a competitive sport, talent should be everything. The better the fighters, the better the generation. UFC right now is more stacked than old UFC and Pride together.
You have no way of knowing if the fighters now can beat the fighters from back then in their primes. Easily one of the dumbest things I've read here to date next to the UFC being more stacked then peak Pride and the UFC combined.

Get a ******* clue.
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Old 10-22-2012, 07:29 PM   #73 (permalink)
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You have no way of knowing if the fighters now can beat the fighters from back then in their primes. Easily one of the dumbest things I've read here to date next to the UFC being more stacked then peak Pride and the UFC combined.

Get a ******* clue.
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:27 PM   #74 (permalink)
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I didn't low rep you, but I still dont get why anyone talks like Lesnar got anything handed to him. He was given the hardest run of opponents in UFC history, and faired pretty well against them.

Chaels run is Silva, Stann, Bisping, Silva, Jon Jones - i would say that is harder...not that it matters. Fact is Lesner got a shot from beating Heath Herring and losing to Mir. Not that great, did not deserve the shot.

Him and Chael got shots on there abilty to sell fights - as did the others i mentioned.
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:50 AM   #75 (permalink)
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Chaels run is Silva, Stann, Bisping, Silva, Jon Jones - i would say that is harder...not that it matters. Fact is Lesner got a shot from beating Heath Herring and losing to Mir. Not that great, did not deserve the shot.

Him and Chael got shots on there abilty to sell fights - as did the others i mentioned.
Yeah but I think it's unfair to mention it when Brock actually got the belt. He proved that it was right to give him that oppertunity, and he had I think 2 defences against top level opposition.

I never actually thought about Chael's streak since it'll probably be a losing one. Still rank Brock's higher. Cutting out Herring for being B list, Couture (HOF world champion), Mir, Carwin, Velasquez, Overeem.
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Yeah but I think it's unfair to mention it when Brock actually got the belt. He proved that it was right to give him that oppertunity, and he had I think 2 defences against top level opposition.

I never actually thought about Chael's streak since it'll probably be a losing one. Still rank Brock's higher. Cutting out Herring for being B list, Couture (HOF world champion), Mir, Carwin, Velasquez, Overeem.
Herring was not B-List. But anyway...Brock lost to 3 of them, and i think a lot of HW's would of beaten Couture at that point...
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Herring was not B-List. But anyway...Brock lost to 3 of them, and i think a lot of HW's would of beaten Couture at that point...
He lost to 2 of them in the sreak I mentioned. Herring is alright but he's not exactly a name I would have included in the great run. Like Stann and Bisping in your line up, he was def a weak link.

Couture might not have been in his prime form, but he was a hall of famer who at that time was holding the belt. That's a big thing for anyone to face.

Mir was still regarded as one of the biggest HWs at the time, and highly rated to once again beat Brock and take the title. It was a fight for Brock to lose against one of the most talented and popular HWs at the time.

Carwin was a killer. His streak of wins was amazing. An undefeated knockout specialist. That was a huge opponent to face.

Velasquez was yet another undefeated killer. Brock may have lost but I'm just talking streak of opponents, not streak of wins. Velasquez doesnt really need an introduction in this list.

Overeem, at the time regarded probably the best HW in the world, and still top 3 or joint 1st. It doesnt really get too much bigger for a heavyweight to fight Overeem, so it just caps that run off greatly.

Couture, Mir, Carwin, Velasquez, Overeem.

For someone to pull 3/5 from that list is pretty awesome, especially if they are "all hype" as a lot of people believed.
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Brock did great, im not arguing that - my point still stands he did not deserve the title shot at that point in time. (Him winning does not change that, nor would Sonnen winning mean he deserves this shot)
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Brock did great, im not arguing that - my point still stands he did not deserve the title shot at that point in time. (Him winning does not change that, nor would Sonnen winning mean he deserves this shot)
Yeah I get what you mean, but the whole "cheapens the title" side of things gets blurred if they actually win the belt. It almost makes the bookers look good, seeing a fight and predicting the competitveness.
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