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post #91 of 100 (permalink) Old 10-24-2012, 06:38 PM
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I hope the Diaz fight isn't made. I think Maia is getting himself back to a good place in MMA after hitting a brick wall at MW. He seems to be showing enough skill to fast track, but I think the ideal fight right now is Fitch. The styles make for an AMAZING match, because if you thought the grappling display of Erick Silva Vs Fitch was good, bring the best BJJ guy in the UFC in on the action and it can only be a FOTY candidate.

Diaz is still near title contention. I think he still needs a fight before challenging for the title, or before getting a number 1 contenders shot, and I think it should be a high profile fighter who is currently in the title picture. Maybe give him Koscheck, and then afterwards Rory (if Rory beats BJ) for the #1 contender spot. Dana might not like Diaz all that much, but I'm sure he still considers it harsh for a guy to lose to the replacement of his title fight and won't want to put him at the bottom of the ladder because of it.

Sure, I'm a huge Diaz fan, but I'm surprised to think he's being underrated. A guy looked at this fair and objectivley, and said that he has Maia winning 6/10. He seemed to know exactly what he was talking about and was not being unfair to anyone, but I still think the odds in that particular fight would be much more stacked in the favour of Diaz. I personally would have the fight at 7/10 Diaz.

EDIT: Deadman, did you just say "He won out of luck", even though less than 2 minutes after the incident in question he knocked his opponent out? How can you POSSIBLY not think that's blind hatred?
I'm not sure if you were talking about my post or not. But if you were why do you say 7/10 for Diaz?

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post #92 of 100 (permalink) Old 10-24-2012, 06:44 PM
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The second he shows good footwork and a real Boxing game in the cage, I'll give him his props. until then, he's nothing.
The whole WW division must suck hard then. Because no matter who you gave it too this bum Diaz fought a close fight with the 2nd ranked WW and current title contender. Diaz's terrible wrestling was able to take down Condit.

The WW division blows.
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Maia is the man.

This guy is really reinventing himself at WW. A shame he's getting older, he really has found himself at WW.
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Diaz showed great recovery and finished the fight brilliantly. That being said, he was lucky as hell. Referee could have stopped, Diaz could never recover. Fact is: he was blasted to a knock down, almost a KO. So obviously there was luck involved.
Gosh, even Glover was lucky not going down with that single bomb from Maldonado and stated he should never have dropped his hands against him.
Glover WAS lucky because if Maldonado has ANY sort of whits about him, I'd say he could have got the KO. Diaz took it, was not in serious career threatening danger, faught through quickly and finished the fight himself. If the referee stopped it, he'd have been unlucky, like many situations we have seen, but in letting it continue the referee made the right call and for a pro that should be no case of luck.

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He's beat some good fighters, no doubt. But..., every win I've ever seen from him as been against fighters with a stupid game plan, and that was to back up against the fence and let Diva throw punches at them, except for Daley, he got too overanxious and he's a overrated joke anyway. And..., Diva is an overrated Boxer. He walks forward and throws punches. No lateral movement, very little head movement and all of his punches just look wide. As far as I'm concerned, he's not even a ranked fighter the second he started whining and retired. It's just stupid to think that he's still a number 1, or even top 5, contender after he retired and hasn't and will not fight in over a year. Finally, Diva has never proven himself as a great Boxer. Boxing isn't just walking forward, into counters, and throwing 1's and 2's. He's aggressive, nothing more. The second he shows good footwork and a real Boxing game in the cage, I'll give him his props. until then, he's nothing.
Daley isn't overrated, because no one thinks much of him To go toe to toe with him is almost a deathwish though.

And people don't PLAN to go against the cage. I'm sure if you, a dude posting on the net, knows that is a weakness then the pro champion raising coaches see it too. Diaz puts the pressure on you though. If he was better at cutting off the cage, he'd almost be unbeatable on the feet without a 1 punch KO.

It depends on what you mean as overrated BOXER. In boxing terms, yeah he wouldnt be great. He barley even punches right. In MMA terms, he might just be the best in UFC right now. He switches so effortlessly, is super accurate and his punches do damage that they shouldnt.

He didnt REALLY retire. He just bitched after he was pissed in the Condit fight. He'd have been back 6 months later had he not been suspended. But I agree with your point. I wouldnt rank him up there as much. At the same time, he should get right back in there with top guys because no one wants to see Diaz beat down on some ex-TUF guys. Koscheck is probably the fight to happen, and the win could put him right up there (and then he'd probably get a number 1 contenders shot out of how unlucky he was with the GSP injury).

Yeah maybe boxing isn't the right word for it. He's a great "puncher" might be right. No head movement, no block, no footwork. I suppose that cancels out "boxing", but at the same time it works in near enough every fight he has. It would have even worked against Condit if he had even a tiny bit of fight intelligance in that one. He only really needed a combination or two more and he'd be the interim champ now. He just let Condit prance around way too much.

Again, you don't like him. But at the end of the day he was Strikeforce champion for ages, came to UFC, earned a title shot by easily disposing of BJ Penn, and then lost a really close fight with Condit. Does he have to show you those skills for you to respect them? Or could you respect his fighting if he continued to win fights?

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I'm not sure if you were talking about my post or not. But if you were why do you say 7/10 for Diaz?

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I tried to really put across that you werent wrong, or that you werent being biased or unfair because you werent. >I< personally feel that Maia will be VERY predictable in the fight. He will probably get Diaz down in the first and fight to a stand up. Take a combination or a punch or two and then land another takedown. I'd see Diaz than getting his range and managing to land shots from a distance where Maia is struggling to shoot. Maia will try to grapple and go for takedowns but he'll be eating a lot of shots as he does. He will slowly go against the cage and get beaten badly against it until a 3 round UD goes to Diaz. Thats how I'd see it going. The other way is Maia maybe lay and praying with no real success on the ground for 3 rounds, but I dont think hell get the oppertunity.

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Sorry for double post.

I tried to really put across that you werent wrong, or that you werent being biased or unfair because you werent. >I< personally feel that Maia will be VERY predictable in the fight. He will probably get Diaz down in the first and fight to a stand up. Take a combination or a punch or two and then land another takedown. I'd see Diaz than getting his range and managing to land shots from a distance where Maia is struggling to shoot. Maia will try to grapple and go for takedowns but he'll be eating a lot of shots as he does. He will slowly go against the cage and get beaten badly against it until a 3 round UD goes to Diaz. Thats how I'd see it going. The other way is Maia maybe lay and praying with no real success on the ground for 3 rounds, but I dont think hell get the oppertunity.
Thanks for the kind words. I understand sometimes when people get talking the "nut hugging" comes into play and they can become a little biased.

But for me I like to look at it from a non biased way. I see where you are coming from with your points. For me I believe both fighters will be a bit predictable, Maia is going to be shooting, and trying to tie Diaz up to drag him to the ground. Where he will either push aggressively for the sub(like he has been) or just try and control Diaz with his soft punches. Diaz will look to push Maia into the cage and beat him down with his volume punching. But I believe that Maia will be able to keep Diaz off his feet. I think that Maia will get hit a few times, but will be able to make it a dog fight on the ground.



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What about Maia v Rory McDonald if Rory beats BJ?
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What about Maia v Rory McDonald if Rory beats BJ?
That's an interesting match up. But Rory is a monster EVERYWHERES, so I'm not sure who I'd go with. Rory has more tools to win the fight, biggest tool would be his TDD. I don't know if Maia has what it takes to get him down and control him. Rory would probably keep the fight standing, which is bad news for Maia



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Unrelated laugh of the day.

Fitch and Kos face swap!

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Very interesting match ups those would be if they were to become reality. I want to see either one of those fights, I hope the UFC consider one of them that Maia is asking for.

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