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Old 10-25-2012, 08:09 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I'm sure his knee is fine or he would have pulled out. GSP does not risk that sort of thing.
He may think it's fine in training, but an ACL injury is a serious injury, look at what they've done to Shogun, completely destroyed what could have been an even better career than the one he's had and he hasn't really looked the same, except for when he fought at a methodical pace against Machida.

Of course, GSP is a professional and you're probably right but ring rust plus coming off a major injury if anyone's gonna beat him at 170, it'll be this fight.
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:14 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Shogun's wreckless, GSP went through an intensive recovery to get back to 100%. The medical science is there for him to fully recover all the way if he did it right which he probably did. I don't think it will matter at all, GSP's probably had the best doctors in the world working on his knee. He'll be fine, I think his ring rust will cause him to be more aggressive than usual.
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I like Carlos Condit a lot, most people do, but make no mistake about it, GSP will convincingly beat him. It's not even going to be close.

The UFC is an incredible hype machine. Think of all the past GSP and Silva fights ......they really get you believing in the chance of an upset.

I had so many friends of mine tell me that they bet on Bonnar beating Silva because "anything can happen in the UFC". Yes, it is true, anything can happen in the UFC ......heck, anything can happen in life. But the odds are so stacked against any opponent of GSP, Silva or JBJ right now. These 3 fighters are all "once in a generation" type fighters.
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He may think it's fine in training, but an ACL injury is a serious injury, look at what they've done to Shogun, completely destroyed what could have been an even better career than the one he's had and he hasn't really looked the same, except for when he fought at a methodical pace against Machida.

Of course, GSP is a professional and you're probably right but ring rust plus coming off a major injury if anyone's gonna beat him at 170, it'll be this fight.
I tend to believe Shogun's love of donuts is what did him in.
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I like Carlos Condit a lot, most people do, but make no mistake about it, GSP will convincingly beat him. It's not even going to be close.
I couldn't disagree more. What we have here is a legitimate finisher vs a guy who has played it safe. Condit is a warrior who, other than his Diaz fight, focuses on getting his opponent into positions where he can finish them. I think in standing Condit would beat the GSP we have been seeing, but if old GSP comes back then GSP will have the striking edge. On the ground GSP will have the TD edge, but Condit has a wicked guard and I see him tapping GSP.

Anyone who is looking past Condit is just asking to be shocked, because Condit is one of the few fighters who actually deserves his nickname. The last time GSP "Rush"ed to anything, it was to the judges score cards.
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I couldn't disagree more. What we have here is a legitimate finisher vs a guy who has played it safe. Condit is a warrior who, other than his Diaz fight, focuses on getting his opponent into positions where he can finish them. I think in standing Condit would beat the GSP we have been seeing, but if old GSP comes back then GSP will have the striking edge. On the ground GSP will have the TD edge, but Condit has a wicked guard and I see him tapping GSP.

Anyone who is looking past Condit is just asking to be shocked, because Condit is one of the few fighters who actually deserves his nickname. The last time GSP "Rush"ed to anything, it was to the judges score cards.
Serious question, what is the basis of the bold part? You say you see Condit tapping GSP, honestly, how, and why?

GSP has been submitted once, when he got careless against Hughes. In every other fight in his career, he has never even been close to getting submitted, by anyone, anywhere.

I agree Condit has a decent ground game, but I simply don't understand what logical basis you could so confidently say he could submit GSP. If Condit beats GSP, it will be on the feet, there is no reason at all to think he can beat GSP on the ground, based on their history.
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I hope Condit attacks that knee because it's very clearly a weak link. Not physically because most repaired ACLs are sturdier than the real thing nowadays, but mentally.
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Serious question, what is the basis of the bold part? You say you see Condit tapping GSP, honestly, how, and why?

GSP has been submitted once, when he got careless against Hughes. In every other fight in his career, he has never even been close to getting submitted, by anyone, anywhere.

I agree Condit has a decent ground game, but I simply don't understand what logical basis you could so confidently say he could submit GSP. If Condit beats GSP, it will be on the feet, there is no reason at all to think he can beat GSP on the ground, based on their history.
GSP has never sat in the guard of someone who actually works out of it. Sure he did well on top of BJ Penn, Kos, and Hardy, but none of these men try to attack from their back, they just try to get out of his guard and onto their feet. GSP also has bad habits from top, like posturing up while keeping an arm stiff on the mat, ignoring leg positions, and so forth.

If GSP had taken Shields down and shut him down I would probably not feel this way, but he didn't, he smartly stayed on his feet. Condit doesn't have that reputation and in this fight it is to his benefit. Condit is ruthless on the ground, won't give GSP an inch to move or setup bunt instead will use the bottom to get GSP to make mistakes. A mistake against GSP and he uses it to build his point lead. A mistake against Condit and he finishes the fight.
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