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Should be an easy win for Vitor. He's better than Bisping everywhere.

Except the one place that counts: Giving a shit.

Bisping is one of the most driven guys in the sport, he has such a huge chip on his shoulder and really seems to fight purely out of spite. Vitor hasn't really cared about the sport or his career for the better part of a decade.

Bisping by decision. Vitor will come out strong, be unable to finish, and then will crumble in on himself as usual, at which point Bisping will turn it up and it will get ugly for Vitor.

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Bisping still cares about winning. Vitor hasn't really cared for the better part of a decade.
How in the blue hell do you figure that?

Also, what's this nonsense about him 'crumbling in on himself'? Have you even watched a Vitor Belfort fight since 2006?
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How in the blue hell do you figure that?

Also, what's this nonsense about him 'crumbling in on himself'? Have you even watched a Vitor Belfort fight since 2006?
Have you? He's lost to every good fighter he's fought except Rich Franklin.
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I have. The last time Vitor mentally caved was against Dan Henderson, which was in 2006. Since then, he's gone on to win (and finish) every fight he's had minus his bouts with Anderson and Jones. He didn't cave against Anderson. That was a flash KO that literally no one saw coming. Nor did he cave against Jones. He took vicious elbow after vicious elbow to the face (only one of which was needed to set-up a finish on Machida), and he still had enough to threaten with a near fight ending arm-bar.

Vitor wins 7 fights post-2006, all of them via finish except for one. He loses to Anderson Silva, which most everyone does, via flash KO. And he, as a middleweight, goes on to threaten the previously thought-to-be untouchable and massive LHW champion. Tell me again how Vitor is still a mental midget.
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The last time Vitor mentally caved was against Dan Henderson, which was in 2006. Since then, he's gone on to win (and finish) every fight he's had minus his bouts with Anderson and Jones.
That's a fun game.

Fedor is still undefeated if you don't count anything after the Bret Rogers fight.

I like this game.

I'm being glib obviously. But it's easy to make fighters look good if you make stipulations that exclude the fights where they've looked bad.
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That's a fun game.

Fedor is still undefeated if you don't count anything after the Bret Rogers fight.

I like this game.

I'm being glib obviously. But it's easy to make fighters look good if you make stipulations that exclude the fights where they've looked bad.
Cool story. Only you're ignoring, wilfully no doubt, the part where I blatantly asked, 'Have you watched a single Vitor Belfort fight post-2006?' I'm not arguing with you that Vitor has been known to crumble under pressure in the past. I think we'd agree on that point. What I am saying, however, is that Vitor has demonstrated in the last however many years that he is much stronger mentally than he was before. A lesser man would have quit after a single elbow from Jon Jones... Vitor didn't quit after eating two-dozen of them, if not more.

And Fedor is a very poor comparison. You can't ignore a man's present and future. You can, however, forgive a past when obvious weaknesses are worked on and corrected. All of that aside, I highly doubt that a Vitor who didn't crumble against Jon Jones and Anderson Silva is going to cave against the powerless striking and novice wrestling of one Michael Bisping.
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Have you? He's lost to every good fighter he's fought except Rich Franklin.
How many good fighters has he been given?

He just locked in a deep sub on Jones. He gave it his all that fight and did better than Shogun, Page, or Bader. As an old 185er.

Getting front kicked in the face by the best fighter means he wasn't game for the fight or didn't care?

No getting it.

There is a way Bisping can win though...and that is cardio. Last time at 185 Vitor had a HARD cut. And if he wasn't fighting an even more drained fighter that night he would have gassed bad. I'm not "counting" Bisping out by any means. Vitor has better/more devastating hands for sure.

I think Vitor should stay at 205 and take "big" fights. Some guys just shouldn't be making that cut anymore. As seen with Hendo.

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