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post #141 of 167 (permalink) Old 10-28-2012, 08:21 PM
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Because the Bible says you can. Hahah.
The Bible also says that slavery is okay, Matt. Read Leviticus.
But I'm sure Matt's okay with slavery too.

On a side note, I can see both sides of the issue. I don'te hunt, nor will I ever, but I won't comdemn people who hunt for subsistence, population control, and other ecological beneficial factors. But hunting for sport? Not a fan. We share the earth with these animals, I think we should sho them some respect.
Matt's a Christian and in the Christian book of the New Testament, slavery is sort of frowned upon.

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Matt's a Christian and in the Christian book of the New Testament, slavery is sort of frowned upon.
There are multiple verses in the King James Bible that not only supports slavery, but condones the beating of slaves. The Christian religion and more importantly "scriptures" written in the word of that religion's "God" is absolutely stocked with the beating of slaves, gay people and women, along with **** and murder, some new testament, some old testament. Both are the word of God and are equally legitimate.

Read the bible or do a quick Google search on "King James Bible and slavery", the first link alone is sufficient.

edit - I'm not trying to start a religious debate, please don't come back to me with a big debate on it, I'm more than happy to debate religion in the debate section, I'm just pointing out that if you do a quick google search, you can find multiple verses of the bible condoning slavery.
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Smh at the whole conversation. Some people are against drinking, some people are against eating meeat all together. You are against hunting? Alright, whatever. But you do things people feel strongly against aswell, so you can sit back and judge people or you can leave them to it.
Seriously. Different people do and like different things.

If it's a legal behavior, you should address your complaints to your government, not other citizens who are simply exercising their rights.

There are enough things we aren't 'allowed' to do as it is. Do you guys really want to add more things to the list?
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So you're suggesting if humans didn't exist, the world would be overpopulated by animals? If so, define overpopulated if you don't mind.
Overpopulation in the animal kingdom is very strong, and can lead to extixion in many cases.

Humans have to kill a few wolves to save a few sheep.

But regardless, that's not even the issue. People use phrases like inhumane when that's all the race has ever known. The guy with the biggest sabretooth tiger on his cave floor got the best cave hoe. It's natural order. The reason humans are on top is because we are by a mile the most intelligent predator. Something that can come along with that is killing a weaker species. I dont hunt, and I probably wouldnt, but regardless, people do it and its down to them.

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Hughes wasn't hunting these animals for food or to feed the locales, (even though he implies that's what he went over for). That wasn't his intention. His goal was to fly over to Africa and kill some exotic animals....for pleasure. Nothing else. He killed those animals because he finds it fun to kill them.

I have no problem with folk hunting as a means for food and to survive, what I do have a problem with, are sick human beings who kill animals for pleasure and their own satisfaction.

What kind of sick freak looks at some of those beautiful animals and says to themselves; "I'd love to put a bullet through it's head, just for fun!".

I'm an animal lover, so seeing things like this go on disgust me really. If you're hunting for food, or for over population issues then there is no problem what so ever. Killing those creatures for fun?

Get the fck outta here with that shit.

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There are multiple verses in the King James Bible that not only supports slavery, but condones the beating of slaves. The Christian religion and more importantly "scriptures" written in the word of that religion's "God" is absolutely stocked with the beating of slaves, gay people and women, along with **** and murder, some new testament, some old testament. Both are the word of God and are equally legitimate.

Read the bible or do a quick Google search on "King James Bible and slavery", the first link alone is sufficient.

edit - I'm not trying to start a religious debate, please don't come back to me with a big debate on it, I'm more than happy to debate religion in the debate section, I'm just pointing out that if you do a quick google search, you can find multiple verses of the bible condoning slavery.
That's nothing to do with religion and all to do with the period it was written in. Take any 3000 year old book like the Old Testament and it will seem pretty out of touch most likely. Even the New Testament is just a little less than 2000 years old.

Obviously, using the Bible to justify hunting is moronic. There are plenty of legitimate justifications for hunting the way we do it here in North America. But I'll agree that Europeans shouldn't be allowed to hunt because history has shown they aren't responsible enough to do it humanely or sustainably.

If this thread's shown anything it's that there are a lot more open atheists here than Sherdog, which is nice to see. Gives hope that one day people will put aside all these appeals to emotion and start letting logic inform their opinions. One step at a time though.

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That's nothing to do with religion and all to do with the period it was written in. Take any 3000 year old book like the Old Testament and it will seem pretty out of touch most likely. Even the New Testament is just a little less than 2000 years old.

Obviously, using the Bible to justify hunting is moronic. There are plenty of legitimate justifications for hunting the way we do it here in North America. But I'll agree that Europeans shouldn't be allowed to hunt because history has shown they aren't responsible enough to do it humanely or sustainably.

If this thread's shown anything it's that there are a lot more open atheists here than Sherdog, which is nice to see. Gives hope that one day people will put aside all these appeals to emotion and start letting logic inform their opinions. One step at a time though.
3000 years old? Is this Kent Hovind?

But yeah I agree. I'd consider the bible to be somewhat of a guide to good living in the BCs, and since social stigmas and ethicate has changed greatly since then, it's not really something to stick to for rules and allowances etc.

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I had no idea people were so against hunting until Hughes got a ton of backlash before and Hardy came out and said some shit. I don't get it. It's all regulated, he does it the right way. Plenty of illegal hunting out there to get upset about. It's not like he is pulling the pickup truck over and shooting a unicorn. He is doing it the right way.
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Again, Hughes isn't a douche just because he killed animals. He's a coward cause he needs to kill animals to get off and his justification comes from an appeal to bullshit sources.

If he simply said, 'I like killing animals, if I can do it I will", or something to that extent, I would have respected his position much more.

Saying its legal and approved by the Bible is a cowardly cop-out and basically says to me that Hughes has no self-determination in terms of his ethics.
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Again, Hughes isn't a douche just because he killed animals. He's a coward cause he needs to kill animals to get off and his justification comes from an appeal to bullshit sources.

If he simply said, 'I like killing animals, if I can do it I will", or something to that extent, I would have respected his position much more.

Saying its legal and approved by the Bible is a cowardly cop-out and basically says to me that Hughes has no self-determination in terms of his ethics.
I think he was responding to the people who said un-Chirstian to hunt. People were actually saying that he is going against his faith by hunting. So IMO his response was geared towards those people. That is why he brought up the bible and the law.
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