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Old 10-27-2012, 06:49 PM   #21 (permalink)
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You can judge a man by his actions, and after the terrible reputation (personality wise) Hughes has built over the years for being a piece of shit, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Hughes went over to Africa just to kill for fun.

He fed the locales (or says he did) because it doesn't make him look as bad in the public eye. He covered his tracks quite well. But putting two and two together, I think it's quite obvious Hughes didn't go on a journey to the other side of the world just to help out a few of the natives. He went over there to kill for fun.
The actual kills/animals were used for food and the materials will be used as well for various things. So, is it the actual death of the animals you are upset about, or just the reason you think Hughes did it?

I mean, even if his reasoning for doing it was his own (for fun), and say he used giving the meat to locals/using materials as a smoke screen so that he would look better, it still makes the actual hunt/kills worth while and feeds people/gives them materials to use to better their life.

Just curious as to which you are actually upset at.
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Old 10-27-2012, 06:50 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Killing for fun is human nature. Violence is part of us. It's why we do things like go to war, hunt animals, and participate in blood sports.
I barely even know Grappleretarded I think as a species we have risen above that shit, nobody goes to war for fun, most people hunt or support hunting for food...and the only blood sports around now tend to leave both participants alive.
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The actual kills/animals were used for food and the materials will be used as well for various things. So, is it the actual death of the animals you are upset about, or just the reason you think Hughes did it?

I mean, even if his reasoning for doing it was his own (for fun), and say he used giving the meat to locals/using materials as a smoke screen so that he would look better, it still makes the actual hunt/kills worth while and feeds people/gives them materials to use to better their life.

Just curious as to which you are actually upset at.
Obviously the reasoning behind why I think Hughes did it.
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Obviously the reasoning behind why I think Hughes did it.
Okay, so the actual hunting of the animal is justified because they were used properly to help locals, right? Regardless of Hughes own personal reason, the hunt was great for the people and helped them substantially.

Personally, it sounds like Hughes did something he enjoys (hunting, many people enjoy hunting, perfectly nice people who just enjoy the hunt for fun) without breaking any laws, it was during legal hunting season or whatever, and all of the materials were used properly to help others.

I don't see the problem on Hughes part, he likes to hunt and enjoys it and he did it legally during a proper period and used all the materials to help local people and fed them.
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Okay, so the actual hunting of the animal is justified because they were used properly to help locals, right? Regardless of Hughes own personal reason, the hunt was great for the people and helped them substantially.

Personally, it sounds like Hughes did something he enjoys (hunting, many people enjoy hunting, perfectly nice people who just enjoy the hunt for fun) without breaking any laws, it was during legal hunting season or whatever, and all of the materials were used properly to help others.

I don't see the problem on Hughes part, he likes to hunt and enjoys it and he did it legally during a proper period and used all the materials to help local people and fed them.
That's where we both agree to disagree. I don't think hunting for fun is fine. I think it's morally wrong and no human being should hunt for their own personal satisfaction or pleasure. I just straight up don't agree with it, it actually sickens me.
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And he's not exactly unique among career soldiers. Most hunting done in the 1st World is trophy hunting. And blood sports are big around the world in a hundred different forms. Muay Thai, TKD, Boxing, MMA, bull fighting, cock fighting, dog fighting, hockey... humans like violence and humans like blood.
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That's where we both agree to disagree. I don't think hunting for fun is fine. I think it's morally wrong and no human being should hunt for their own personal satisfaction or pleasure. I just straight up don't agree with it, it actually sickens me.
Even if it's in perfectly legal hunting season, thus keeping population control and eating the animal? Just because you're hunting and having fun doing it doesn't mean you don't feel anything for the animal or don't respect it, most people when they hunt use the food/material, and they enjoy it greatly at the same time.
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Yet you team up with him every chance you get. Maybe an unrequited crush?

And you are living in a dream world if you think we - as a species - will ever rise above that. Violence is part of us. Nothing will ever change that. No social evolution. No magnificent breakthrough. Nothing.

Plenty of people go to war for fun. General James N. Mattis of the U.S. Marine Corps - a general who has multiple commendations for empathy and humanitarian works - said the following in an interview.
I dont team up with him....i was joking anyway, I don't really think someone should shoot you.

Anyone who kills for fun is morally corrupt, i don't care if they have also done some good, Jimmy Savile raped kids...but hey, he raised a bunch of money for them too - so its OK right?

No...your General is a corrupt person, no good will change that.
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Yet you team up with him every chance you get. Maybe an unrequited crush?

And you are living in a dream world if you think we - as a species - will ever rise above that. Violence is part of us. Nothing will ever change that. No social evolution. No magnificent breakthrough. Nothing.

Plenty of people go to war for fun. General James N. Mattis of the U.S. Marine Corps - a general who has multiple commendations for empathy and humanitarian works - said the following in an interview.



And he's not exactly unique among career soldiers. Most hunting done in the 1st World is trophy hunting. And blood sports are big around the world in a hundred different forms. Muay Thai, TKD, Boxing, MMA, bull fighting, cock fighting, dog fighting, hockey... humans like violence and humans like blood.


A great scene from a great film. Whilst it may be true that many human beings are violent by nature, there comes a point where you have to draw a line between going too far and extreme cases of violence.

Also, you're getting quite paranoid about myself and Jobbuac. We don't team up together, and as he said earlier, we barely even know each other. Just happens to be that we seem to share quite a few similar view points on certain topics.

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